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The Reluctant Runners Thread

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  • Started 9 years ago by Wilmington's Cow
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  1. Min
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    I have just been on the Footworks website for a nosey and there is scary stuff about Snowlines going into liquidation and Footworks being online only just now. There is a line about a new shop opening but I am a bit worried that might be similar to "the cheque is in the post". Anyone know any more?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  2. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @Min

    Snowlines' real-world shop is plastered with liquidation notices.

    I always buy from Run And Become in Queensferry Street, though I glumly noted that Decathlon have Salomon trail shoes for £45 the other day as I picked up my winter jacket.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  3. HankChief
    Member

    Having put on my trainers for them first yime in 10 years for a charity 10k last week and struggled to walk for several days afterwards, I would say my reluctance to repeat it has gone up significantly.

    Anyway for those of you so inclined, there is a new Run 4 It shop at Maybury which opened today. Its where the Marionville Models shop used to be on Turnhouse Road so quite a big shop.

    Will be keeping an eye on the parking situation as those visiting the Nursery next door already overflow onto the pavement. :(

    Posted 8 years ago #
  4. remberbuck
    Member

    And using the extra space to stock tri stuff, 2XU, for the first time. I wish them well.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  5. fimm
    Member

    @Hankchief, if you don't run for years and then go and run 10k I am not surprised you were stiff afterwards. If you'd actually worked up to it you would have been fine!

    I definitely prefer Run & Become to Run 4 It; I was in the latter the other day because I had vouchers to spend - Run & Become let you try their shoes outside on the pavement while Run 4 It make you run on a treadmill which just feels weird (I was doing little bits of jogging where I could in the shop!).

    I've seen adverts for the new Maybury shop - one of their selling points is "Free street parking". Needless to say that doesn't raise them in my estimation any. (But if they do have tri stuff that might be useful...)

    Posted 8 years ago #
  6. acsimpson
    Member

    I've asked the council for bike parking at the nursery in the past. While they accepted it as a location they mentioned that they had other higher priority ones to do first. If anyone thinks some council parking outside the shop would be a good idea it might help speed it up to ask.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  7. HankChief
    Member

    @finn Don't worry I knew it was going to hurt afterwards - I was roped in at the last minute...

    An interesting experiment to see what leg muscles a cyclist doesn't use. Answer = front of thighs - which I guess is for pulling up.

    @ac excellent idea for cycle parking. If they put some in near the dropped kerb that might discourage some those parking on the pavement who use it for smooth access.

    It's not that ample free (roadside) parking doesn't exist it's just a bit further up Turnhouse Road and you can't expect people to actually walk 50m can you.. <sigh>

    Turnhouse Road Pavement Parking by HankChief, on Flickr

    Posted 8 years ago #
  8. fimm
    Member

    My user name is fimm, not finn. (It is interesting how many people get this wrong. I'm hardly unusual in having a non-word for a user name, but it seems to be an easy one to misread.)

    I may have told this story before....

    Some years ago, when Boyfriend of Fimm still worked for the bank, he had a colleague who was a keen squash player. At that time BoF was running half-marathons mostly and doing triathlons. The squash player suggested that he have a game of squash, and BoF agreed. Because the squash player was pretty good, he was able to give BoF a good game with lots of running around. Because BoF was fit, he could run around quite happily. However this running was all short sprints and changes for direction - not the way BoF trained. He could hardly move for several days afterwards... the squash player was quite amused that he'd managed to break the pretty fit guy so thoroughly!

    Posted 8 years ago #
  9. HankChief
    Member

    @fimm, my sincere apologies. I did know you are mm and not nn, but can't remember why I got it wrong - maybe human error or maybe autocorrect.

    The t'internet says we have 640 muscles in body, so it shouldn't be a surprise that anyone 'fit' doesn't excell at all of them and new activities will expose their shortcomings.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  10. fimm
    Member

    Please don't take my grumpiness too seriously :-)
    Autocorrect is a good point.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  11. steveo
    Member

    any one done any hill running. My mate (who keeps talking me in to daft stuff) has talked me into doing a 10k in the lakes. Most of my running involves running in basically the only flat areas of Edinburgh and I'm not sure how well advised this actually is!

    Posted 8 years ago #
  12. redmist
    Member

    A hilly 10k or an actual hill race ? If its the latter then you're in for some fun ;-)

    Posted 8 years ago #
  13. steveo
    Member

    I suppose it would be better termed a "fell run" given the locality but yeah actual off road.

    I'm guessing there is some comparison to be made between mtb and road riding.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  14. redmist
    Member

    Indeed. Fell/hill running is completely different to road running. Hill runners are a breed apart ! You'll be constantly in the "red zone" on the uphills and constantly out of control on the downs ;-)

    Posted 8 years ago #
  15. steveo
    Member

    Any tips? Any chance my cycling legs are going to do anything but make it harder?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  16. Morningsider
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    Hill/fell running is great, there's nothing like running in the countryside. Although, in my experience you never notice the amazing views as you really have to concentrate on where your feet are going.

    Pacing is key - be prepared for long slow slogs uphill and maniacal downhill charges. You may also think your lungs are going to catch fire at points. Also, your legs will hurt afterwards - really hurt.

    But, worth doing - honestly!

    Posted 8 years ago #
  17. steveo
    Member

    burning lungs, down hill hurtles... Why do I always let myself get talked into these things :D.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  18. fimm
    Member

    When is the race?
    If you have a bit of time to train, go and find a hill and run up and down it.
    If it is this weekend, plan to walk up any steep climbs.
    If it turns out to be a proper fell race, even the guys at the front power-walk the ascents.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  19. steveo
    Member

    Luckily its not till October so I've got plenty of time to train. Best starting off on the road? A few reps of Kaimes Road?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  20. Luath
    Member

    Your cycling legs will help you out on the climbs uphill.

    Downhill is a bit more about speed and agility so cycling won't have helped as much. But it won't necessarily have hindered either. There's plenty of quality cyclists that can run down hills.

    Another tip is to not set off too fast. 10km on the hills could take around 50% longer than 10km on the roads depending on the terrain and amount of climb. Take it steady at the start and don't be afraid to walk on the steeper climbs.

    Wee word of warning - if you don't do much hill running then nail a hill race, you muscles will hurt after a day or two. It's called DOMS and can be really sore but fades after a couple of days. You won't believe it at the time but you haven't done any lasting damage, in fact your muscles will be stronger when they regenerate.

    Good luck!

    Posted 8 years ago #
  21. LaidBack
    Member

    Hash House crowd were having a pre-run drink at Argyle Bar last night. Varied and non-comformist!

    Posted 8 years ago #
  22. steveo
    Member

    Me and DOMS are no strangers after getting back on the bike and getting back to middle distances at the start of the year I could barely walk the next day after the first 40km ride!

    It's the Coniston 10k apparently, looks like a good introduction.
    http://www.lakelandtrails.org/coniston/

    Posted 8 years ago #
  23. fimm
    Member

    steveo if Kaimes Road is convenient, it would be as good as anywhere.
    What sort of shoes have you got? Are you going to need off road shoes for your race? If so, once you have them, you can run up Corstorphine Hill (other hills are available). Much nicer (and less hard on your legs). In fact, I would bet that you can run up Corstorphine Hill in road shoes.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  24. fimm
    Member

    Ah, not a fell run but a trail run. Undulating rather than really steep. I can't work out from the website if you'd be OK in road shoes or not.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  25. steveo
    Member

    Not as bad as first expected then?

    I've got a nice pair of road shoes and a nearly done pair of decathlon ones I'm not too fussy about. I'm thinking first alternation then is to either divert up Craiglockhart or kaimes on my longer weekend runs and start to incorporate some hill work then worry about getting muddy.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  26. Morningsider
    Member

    Corstorphine Hill would be fine in road trainers, it's not too steep and the paths are pretty easy going on the feet. It can get a bit muddy though.

    Lake district paths can be pretty hard on the feet - probably best to invest in some off-road trainers for protection from stones and a bit more grip. Decathlon is your friend, unless you want to spend some serious cash. Although to start I would just use what you have and see how it goes.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  27. jonty
    Member

    I do the seven hills route in road trainers and have no particular issues apart from on the "superhero" lines. On more serious hills or in very muddy conditions you'll want something a bit more grippy though.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  28. PS
    Member

    Trail running is way more fun than urban running. Looks like a nice route. Recovery pint of Bluebird in the Black Bull afterwards.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  29. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @steveo

    A few reps of Kaimes Road?

    Nuh. That's road runner thinking. Start on Arthur's Seat if you're nearby. Just get into the habit of going at whatever pace you have to go at to not have to stop. Run to the top of everything you can see.

    Then go out to the Pentlands. Do the same.

    There's nothing like it - but as Morningsider says, don't expect to see much. You'll be looking at your feet on the way up and on the way down sweat will be driven into your eyes and blind you. I stop at the Pentland summits - this is verboten for hill runners (not fell runners, we are in Scotland) so please don't tell anyone.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  30. paddyirish
    Member

    "Recovery pint of Bluebird in the Black Bull afterwards"

    The run is optional, this is mandatory...

    Posted 8 years ago #

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