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The Reluctant Runners Thread

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  • Started 8 years ago by Wilmington's Cow
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  1. fimm
    Member

    BOFOF did that one year. It was a beautiful evening, and he wondered why he was out running instead of sitting in the park with a beer!

    "Bottle of beer for any finisher who beats or equals their age in minutes. Race record is 41:40 - so a good target for all Vets!!"
    If I did that I'd have taken 3 minutes off the women's record - I wonder if a woman has ever managed it?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  2. steveo
    Member

    - I wonder if a woman has ever managed it?

    I'd have to take about 6 minutes of the course record and double my usual 10k off road pace. I've got no chance but you might.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  3. fimm
    Member

    The woman's record does look "soft" - if we take the usual "men's + 10%" formula it should be in the high 45 minutes. I expect I'd be nearer 50, though - I may be decent on the flat but I'm much slower on the hills and my descending is really bad as I found out on Saturday!

    Posted 7 years ago #
  4. steveo
    Member

    My descending is a appalling last few events I've done I made up lots of places on the ups and flats but the mountain goats just bounce past me on the down and remotely technical. Bit like my mountain biking tbh.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  5. steveo
    Member

    So, I expect this is normal but seems odd.

    When out in the hills I can maintain a high effort level (mid-high z4) while ascending. When doing intervals on the flat I struggle to maintain the same effort level, my legs feel okay but I'm breathing out my .... and waiting for the rest interval.

    Any thoughts?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  6. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Mismatch between breathing and running cadence?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  7. steveo
    Member

    Care to elaborate? I do find my lungs give out before my legs when running quicker.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  8. fimm
    Member

    Are you saying that your heart rate is higher when you are doing hill reps than when you are running reps on the flat? And/or that your RPE is higher on the flat?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  9. steveo
    Member

    My perceived effort is higher on the flat than going up hill. My HR is in the same range.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  10. fimm
    Member

    Hmm. Odd one...
    Do you spend more time running up hills than running reps on the flat? I'm wondering if your body is just more used to hills than the flat...

    Posted 5 years ago #
  11. steveo
    Member

    Thats probably a good shout.

    I only really do intervals when I'm gearing up for something and even then its only once a week so probably 20 minutes at that kind of effort, where as it takes me that long to get up a hill worth the name.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  12. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Some folk don't adjust their breathing to their footfalls automatically and the impact of the foot on the ground causes a sort of mini-winding effect if you're in the wrong phase of breathing.

    Mate of mine had this problem. Don't ask me what the correct rhythm is - I do it right by reflex, luckily.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  13. steveo
    Member

    Not sure how I'd test for that?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  14. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    When I heard about this problem I examined my own breathing while running. Nearly suffocated.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  15. steveo
    Member

    Like the swimming coaching I had that suggested concentrating on one part of the stroke at a time. Nearly drowned.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  16. fimm
    Member

    steveo that's the only way to do it, though.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  17. steveo
    Member

    Yeah I know, its just I've got terrible coordination; as soon as I started concentrating my arms my legs stopped completely. It was about then I figured triathlon is not for me :D

    Posted 5 years ago #
  18. fimm
    Member

    You'd be surprised at how badly some back of pack triathletes swim... I did a race once where there was a chap who could swim 25 metres, but then had to stop and have a rest before setting off again. (He did have a lane to himself, though...)

    More seriously, were you not given a "pull buoy" to help you keep your legs up while you worked on your arms?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  19. Darkerside
    Member

    Anyone doing the mad hatter's half-/ultra-/marathon this Saturday?

    Wondering if I'll see any friendly faces before I lose the ability to think coherently...

    Posted 5 years ago #
  20. chdot
    Admin

  21. SRD
    Moderator

    am back to trying to run. saturday and today, after what felt like a good (but not hugely speedy) 5k along the canal, my knees hurt. just ached. intensely. while i was sitting down and having coffee (but before a shower).

    any thoughts? just old age? never had any knee problems or pain before, so don't want to start now...

    Posted 4 years ago #
  22. steveo
    Member

    New trainers?

    Posted 4 years ago #
  23. Sheeptoucher
    Member

    I got fitted at Run4it for actual trainers that suited me, made a huge difference!

    IWRATS thing about adjusting breathing, how do I make myself breathe right??

    Posted 4 years ago #
  24. chdot
    Admin

    “am back to trying to run”

    “my knees hurt”

    Remind me which bits of the body running is good for (compared with cycling).

    Posted 4 years ago #
  25. SRD
    Moderator

    @chdot much more efficient at losing weight.

    @steveo new over the summer. but same line as what i had before.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  26. Ed1
    Member

    I used to run a lot like 10 miles a day in 20s I would run cross country it's much less strain on knees in edinburgh area the pentlands hills best place to run

    Posted 4 years ago #
  27. steveo
    Member

    Remind me which bits of the body running is good for (compared with cycling).

    I've not run since August and I've put on a ton of weight!

    Posted 4 years ago #
  28. steveo
    Member

    @steveo new over the summer. but same line as what i had before.

    You've presumably not used them for general wear? I do find the canal surface very unforgiving, but it has the advantage of an uninterrupted path.

    Has the pain eased off?

    Posted 4 years ago #
  29. chdot
    Admin

    Ok

    I’d prefer to eat less.

    (That may sound ‘controversial’, but I’m conscious that I’m slightly heavier than I was - cycling less).

    Walking marginally more (places where cycling not really an option).

    Small run to catch a train last week.

    Needn’t have bothered, was 2 mins late.

    Hurt knee climbing wall 8 days ago. It’s recovered.

    (Obviously ’we’ are not normal - get more exercise than most people just by getting around.)

    Posted 4 years ago #
  30. SRD
    Moderator

    gone away entirely. just this intense ache for 2-3 minutes.

    i do prefer running cross country, and had plans to start running around craiglockhart back when i was fitter. but had a fall when running on a path at home a few summers ago which forced me to stop for a while and never quite got my mojo back.

    afraid the pentlands not an option, as I'm fitting in running around kids and work.

    Posted 4 years ago #

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