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We Walk, We Cycle, We Vote

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  1. sallyhinch
    Member

    Hello all, as some of you will already be aware, there has been a concerted effort to develop a common platform for active travel campaigns for the Holyrood elections next year, arising out of the National Cycling Interest Group (NCIG). After lots of consultation and some rather prolonged discussions we came up with three key 'asks':

    1) Investment: Provide sustained, long term investment in both cycling and walking, reaching 10% of the transport budget
    2) Infrastructure: Build and maintain dedicated cycling infrastructure, enabling people aged 8-80 to cycle
    3) Safety: Promote and deliver safer roads for both walking and cycling

    There was remarkable consensus that these were the top priorities; getting the exact wording was a little bit more complicated and so we're not really in the market for suggestions on improvements, although I'm aware the current wording isn't perfect as it stands mainly because I don't want to have to have any more hour-long conference calls...

    However, the point is that we have created an umbrella campaign to try and promote this over the elections in May, supported by as many campaign groups as we can muster (the current list is Arria Wheelers, Camglen Bike Town, the CTC, the Cycling Embassy of Great Britain, Cycle Law Scotland, Edinburgh Festival of Cycling, GoBike, Living Streets Scotland, Paths for All, Pedal on Parliament, Perth ByCycle, Recyke-a-bike, Scottish Cycling, Spokes Lothian, Sustrans Scotland & hopefully more to come). We have a small amount of funding from the CTC for a website and publicity materials. The campaign will be non-partisan - we won't (and can't) tell people how to vote or who to vote for but we can tell them what individual candidates have signed up to, and we can organise events and hustings. More to the point, we can hopefully harness the efforts of various campaigns in their own areas into something that's a bit bigger than the sum of its parts - and maybe encourage some groups to get involved in the election and make sure that cycling and walking don't get forgotten ...

    There's no live website yet - it's coming but there's just the two of us (me and Suzanne Forup) doing the bulk of the organising - but for those of you who use Facebook there's a FB page https://www.facebook.com/walkcyclevote

    Our first activities will be conference bike rides at (hopefully) all the party conferences - starting with the Green party in Glasgow on Sunday 11th October (https://www.facebook.com/events/1649911321948461/).

    There will be more public involvement nearer the elections but for now we're trying to build support among campaigns so if you're involved in a local group or organisation and would like to add its name to our list of supporters (always assuming you agree with the three asks!) then please let me know.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  2. chdot
    Admin

    Just bumping this.

    Think I missed it when first posted (might have been at a birthday party!)

    Posted 8 years ago #
  3. chdot
    Admin

    "

    Somewhat as a joke, I made a New Year’s Resolution not to start any more cycling organisations this year

    "

    https://cityexile.wordpress.com/2015/09/23/unresolved

    Posted 8 years ago #
  4. sallyhinch
    Member

    Well, we have a website now http://walkcyclevote.scot/

    I would appreciate any feedback, and any evidence we can use in support of the campaign - the site is still a bit of a work in progress.

    also any ideas for election related events (once we get to that stage).

    Manifestos are being written now, so it may be a good time to be contacting your MSPs and saying you hope their party will be supportive of cycling - you can point them to this site, or the POP manifesto if you want something more detailed

    Posted 8 years ago #
  5. chdot
    Admin

    "Manifestos are being written now"

    I'm sure each party has a different system - and probably a small number of secret(?) people doing it.

    It's not just 'transport' - well it shouldn't be.

    I know the Labour Party is looking at "Environmental Justice".

    Presumably the SNP will revisit Healthier, Smarter, Wealthier and Fairer, Safer and Stronger, Greener - not that you'd know they had noticed that 'cycling' would/could/should fit those!

    Posted 8 years ago #
  6. wingpig
    Member

    "
    Wilmington's Cow
    ...
    I was speaking to a Dutch friend the other day, whose other half was a councillor in Amsterdam and heavily involved in promotion of cycling. They spent the last couple of years in Santa Barbara, where he got involved in a cycling advocacy group, and the main comment they came across was, "Why do you want to ride a bike? Are you 6?".

    Though sounds like they started to have some real success (before they moved back to the 'dam a month or two back).

    There was one idea they used in SB that I must look into for here.

    Posted 1 hour ago

    Roibeard

    @WC - There was one idea they used in SB that I must look into for here.

    Don't tease us... do tell!

    Robert

    Posted 1 hour ago

    Wilmington's Cow

    "Don't tease us... do tell!"

    It was a really simple thing that combatted the perception that only 'enthusiasts' wanted better cycling provision. So they set up a photobooth, the idea being that people could write things on supplied blank placards, and take their picture with their request. The only stipulation was they had to be positive, "More bike lanes please" rather than "There are too many cars". So they got families and commuters and racers and just everyone on the broad spectrum of cycling.

    They then took all of the pictures and produced a book of them, then sent a copy to all the local representatives (whatever their version of councillors and MPs is). Beautifully simple.

    Very PoP-esque in a way.

    Posted 41 minutes ago

    unhurt

    That is a very nice advocacy idea indeed!

    Posted 36 minutes ago #

    sallyhinch

    We were actually thinking of doing something similar for 'We Walk, We Cycle, We Vote' - get people to photograph themselves in various places around Scotland (i.e. visibly not just in the Central belt) with signs saying 'I vote for ...' and then whatever they want.

    If any of you want to join in that would be brilliant, and hopefully it will all feed into POP next year as well (we could maybe mount a little exhibition??
    "

    Posted 8 years ago #
  7. chdot
    Admin

    "

    @scotgp: We're consulting on the manifesto for next year. Have your say here https://t.co/uh3q5SEveJ #sgpconf

    "

    Posted 8 years ago #
  8. fimm
    Member

    After inserting a rather flippant comment into the other thread, I'm been giving this more serious thought.
    I thought of "I vote for not having to fight for my space on the road" (a bit negative?) or "I vote for Space For Cycling" (unoriginal and so less personal) or "I vote for being seen as a serious road user" (serious isn't quite the right word - I mean proper, legitimate, to be taken and treated seriously).

    Thoughts?

    I had lots of ideas for people with children!!!

    Posted 8 years ago #
  9. wingpig
    Member

    "I vote for enjoying safe active travel"?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  10. sallyhinch
    Member

    Keep them coming! It's quite hard to come up with just one thing I find.

    We had a good 'launch' event at the Green party conference yesterday - about 30 in all, which was interesting on Glasgow's cycling infrastructure which appears to have been built by someone (vaguely)following Dutch designs but getting the units wrong and using feet instead of metres. If the Scottish Govt ever does meet its vision of 10% of journeys by bike, then they're going to struggle with major congestion

    Posted 8 years ago #
  11. Darkerside
    Member

    "I vote for a [council/councillor/party] that commits to targets, rather than visions, wishes and dreams."

    Re: conjestion, it took five minutes forty to get 29 cyclists across one particular road, and even then we ran the final toucan crossing on red. I may stick the video on YouTube (and in doing so stake a strong claim for Most Tedious Video Of The Year).

    Posted 8 years ago #
  12. Tulyar
    Member

    Good to get some more faces to names and test the lack of fitness for purpose that is the provision of cycle routes through Glasgow, really is a condemnation that it took 40 years to complete the bridge to nowhere, and on our trip round we used the rump of City Road, chopped up by the M8 but still present, as is much of the Great Dumbarton Highway (AKA Argyle Street). It spoke volumes for the standards of roads maintenance to note that the traffic signal pads for the Garscube Road junction were still festering in a strip of crumbling tarmac, 40 years after the road was chopped off in the rape of Cowcaddens.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  13. neddie
    Member

    Nice, clear website. Very good.

    Only a minor thing - the white text over the image on the home page is difficult to read, particularly if you have less than perfect vision.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  14. sallyhinch
    Member

    @eddie_h - thanks, I'll try and sort that to make it clearer

    Posted 8 years ago #
  15. paulmilne
    Member

    I vote for cycling for all, for now and for the future.

    I vote for sustainable safety for everyone trying to get somewhere by whatever means they choose.

    I vote for making it home alive at the end of the day.

    I vote for the wind in my hair and two wheels on the open road.

    I vote for a comprehensive network of urban and interurban segregated cycelways.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  16. Calum
    Member

    Greens have a consultation on their 2016 manifesto https://www.scottishgreens.org.uk/shaping2016/

    Posted 8 years ago #
  17. fimm
    Member

    I vote for clear, sensible and enforced design rules so that my taxes are not wasted on unsuitable/unusable infrastructure.

    (Suggestions for unsuitable infrastructure for the photo welcome...)

    I could do that one in MAWIL mode and the one about a serious road user as WISOB...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  18. sallyhinch
    Member

    That sounds good Fimm

    Posted 8 years ago #
  19. paulmilne
    Member

    "the white text over the image on the home page is difficult to read, particularly if you have less than perfect vision."

    See http://www.nngroup.com/articles/text-over-images/ for some ideas.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  20. paulmilne
    Member

    More feedback on the homepage of wewalkwecyclwevote:

    The "Join Us" button should probably be at the top and bigger. It's the main call to action on the page and it's buried in the text in a strange place, at the end of a sentence that refers to the "following points". It needs to be in a stronger position on its own.

    In addition to the note above about making the text over the image more legible, ask yourself if there might be a little bit too much text there.

    The first two paragraphs could be bunched up into 1, for example:

    "The 2016 Holyrood elections offer us the chance to bring about a transformation of our lives and those of our children. We’re asking all candidates if they will support the following three promises:"

    You go into detail about the three points elsewhere so you could make those bullet points punchier and easier to grasp at a glance:

    "Investment: more money, more regularly
    Infrastructure: build better paths for everyone
    Safety: Deliver safer roads for walking and cycling
    Read more..."

    I'm not suggesting this as final copy but for illustration purposes only!

    Posted 8 years ago #
  21. sallyhinch
    Member

    Thanks for the feedback & the link on text over images. I'm a bit bound by the template used (otherwise I wouldn't have used an image at all), but I will see what I can do, maybe just use an 'image' that's a plain background. I also can't really change the 3 asks, especially not on the front page, as the wording was what was hammered out among the original supporting groups. But I can play around with the button and the introductory paragraph

    Posted 8 years ago #
  22. sallyhinch
    Member

    How does it look now?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  23. sallyhinch
    Member

    Oh and our last two conference rides are this and next weekend (it's been proving incredibly difficult to pin people down to anything...):

    Lib Dems in Dunfermline http://walkcyclevote.scot/lib-dem-conference-ride-24th-october/

    Labour Party in Perth http://walkcyclevote.scot/labour-party-conference-ride-31st-october/

    I know some of you are Fife based and these may be a bit more accessible than Glasgow or Aberdeen.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  24. sallyhinch
    Member

    And an event in Edinburgh - under the Women's Cycle Forum umbrella, although you don't have to be female to attend https://womenscycleforum.wordpress.com/2015/10/20/walk-cycle-vote-with-the-womens-cycle-forum/

    Posted 8 years ago #
  25. fimm
    Member

    I like the idea of the Edinburgh event, but I'm not sure what I'd contribute to it - I can't do the whole "How do my children get to school safely?" thing due to not having any, and I cycle pretty much everywhere I could possibly cycle to (and a choice to take the bus instead is likely to be because it is raining), so what do I have to say? "How do we get to a place where I don't have to fight for a safe place on the roads? Where I will still feel safe to cycle at 80 or 90?"

    Posted 8 years ago #
  26. chdot
    Admin

    "Where I will still feel safe to cycle at 80 or 90?"

    Indeed -

    http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=4374#post-46385

    Posted 8 years ago #
  27. sallyhinch
    Member

    Anyone hear live near Dunfermline? Willie Rennie will be coming out to meet us at 1pm at the Lib Dem conference, followed by a short ride around the delights of Dunfermline's cycling infrastructure http://walkcyclevote.scot/lib-dem-conference-ride-24th-october/

    It would be good to get a decent turnout if we can.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  28. sallyhinch
    Member

    Oh and in response to Fimm - hopefully it will be an exchange of views as much as just asking questions, it may be you have ideas you'd like to share with them too.

    Lesley Hinds has just confirmed she will be coming, so it's a chance to have a direct impact on the streets of Edinburgh...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  29. weezee
    Member

    Count me in on the Edinburgh event. I look forward to personally offering each candidate a ride in the front of our cargo bike to experience the 'infrastructure' from my kids' daily point of view.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  30. fimm
    Member

    weezee that's a genius idea!
    sallyhinch I'm thinking about it...

    Posted 8 years ago #

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