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Roseburn to Leith consultation begins (and the debate continues!)

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  1. acsimpson
    Member

    "This investment has meant Leith Walk’s segregated cycle lane is almost finished, significant parts of the city have recently become 20mph zones and..."

    Surely some mistake or are they suggesting the cycling find is being spent on 20mph rollout.

    Posted 7 months ago #
  2. Stickman
    Member

    Edinburgh is now in a good position to continue momentum over the next few years.

    The decision was made to build this in 2014; construction is due to start in 2019. The Meadows to Canal project may be even longer. That's quite some momentum.

    Posted 7 months ago #
  3. neddie
    Member

    That's quite some momentum.

    It's a supertanker. It travels at a snails pace, but takes more than a mile to stop*

    *Except when parked cars are in the way.

    Posted 7 months ago #
  4. HankChief
    Member

    Consultation about Roseburn Placemaking TODAY! 8am-4pm on the Old Coltbridge in Roseburn.

    Get your views heard...

    Posted 7 months ago #
  5. HankChief
    Member

    Hmmm. No sign of them at 8.20am...

    Posted 7 months ago #
  6. chdot
    Admin

    Is it raining...

    Posted 7 months ago #
  7. HankChief
    Member

    They were promising a gazebo

    Posted 7 months ago #
  8. acsimpson
    Member

    Did they turn up before you had to leave?

    Posted 7 months ago #
  9. HankChief
    Member

    Nope. Can't see anything anywhere about it happening...

    Posted 7 months ago #
  10. Stickman
    Member

    My wife saw the gazebo and a very cold looking Council bod at 4.30.

    Posted 7 months ago #
  11. LivD
    Member

    My husband dropped by at about 3pm ish and had a VERY interesting chat with the Council chap.
    In fact, the Council chap was bouncing with excitement (well, maybe I'm extrapolating) because a local architect had stopped off earlier and said "by the way, do you know that the parking here (https://goo.gl/maps/ecKoQqbw27P2 - about 12 spaces on Russell Road near Tesco in what looks like a development parking lot) is actually council parking not housing development parking?"

    It sounds as though this was News! It is apparently mostly used by residents in that development and commuters who dump their cars for the day. However, if a 2hr max limit could be put on it then it would instantly free up all those spaces for the poor shoppers who can't get parked in Roseburn because of the evil cycle lanes.

    Posted 7 months ago #
  12. Stickman
    Member

    @LivD: ooh, that *is* interesting! Of course if a time limit was suggested then there will be yet more EEN stories about war on motorists as sad-faced locals are pictured complaining about loss of "their" parking.

    Posted 7 months ago #
  13. neddie
    Member

    council parking not housing development parking

    Indeed. The entrance further down has signs "Private Property. Residents Parking Only", whereas this entrance has no such signs...

    Posted 7 months ago #
  14. Klaxon
    Member

    Having it clearly signposted as a short stay pay and display car park from the main road would be a big win for everyone.

    One thing we seem to do badly in Edinburgh is signposting where actual short stay parking is, it tends to be hidden on tiny signs which are overloaded in a sea of loading and greenway restrictions.

    Posted 7 months ago #
  15. HankChief
    Member

    From today's Bike Life Launch in Newcastle

    http://www.bikebiz.com/news/read/increased-footfall-convinces-hardware-store-owner-to-support-cycling/022186

    (The article has been shared with MCC)

    Posted 7 months ago #
  16. chdot
    Admin

    From link -

    Robson's swing to cycling isn't unusual – many retailers often oppose the installation of cycling infrastructure close to their stores believing it will lead to a decrease in takings. The opposite usually occurs. Many studies from around the world have shown that designing streets for people and not cars leads to an increase in retail takings.

    Posted 7 months ago #
  17. Stickman
    Member

    Similar subject:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-41916658

    Posted 7 months ago #
  18. piosad
    Member

    'scrapping parking charges', aye right…

    Posted 7 months ago #
  19. Stickman
    Member

    Murrayfield CC has shared the TTRO for the Roseburn-Haymarket section.

    https://www.murrayfieldcc.org.uk/news/draft-traffic-regulation-orders-roseburn-area

    Public comments open up in January, so get ready for the usual suspects putting in their objections.

    Posted 6 months ago #
  20. HankChief
    Member

    MCC meeting on Tuesday 5th December at 7.30pm, Murrayfield Church Centre, Ormidale Terrace.

    Posted 6 months ago #
  21. Stickman
    Member

    They look very similar to the plans previously seen, but there are probably some subtleties I'm missing. They look good, although I am slightly concerned how well the one-way on Roseburn Gardens will be observed. It will be tempting for some to chance it I think.

    Posted 6 months ago #
  22. HankChief
    Member

    A lot of it is as per the #OptionA design at Christmas.

    New things include:

    Design for Murrayfield Place & the Old Coltbridge which will evolve further with the Rejuvenating Roseburn work.

    15 short stay car parking spaces in the Maltings

    A slight kink and narrowing of the cycle path at the Donaldson's exit to give vehicles a chance to check for traffic without blocking either the pavement or cycle path.

    New toucan by Donaldson's exit/ Stanhope Street

    There will be more but they're not coming to mind.

    Posted 6 months ago #
  23. Stickman
    Member

    Did the plan for the new short-stay parking arise before or after LivD's comment above?!

    Once again - thanks for all your hard work on this.

    Posted 6 months ago #
  24. HankChief
    Member

    Before. Sorry. Would have made a good story.

    Posted 6 months ago #
  25. Klaxon
    Member

    Looks fab

    It appears to be close to the design of Meadows-Innocent which is broadly a good thing.

    Love the junction detail in and out of Devon Pl

    Stanhope St looks like the weakest point - cycleway becomes shared space at the ped xing in order to keep 3 traffic lanes

    My big constructive comment would be more continuous footway - ala Middlefield, and less raised table - ala Albert St.

    If I remember right there is/was an aversion to two way traffic over continuous footway given how novel it is here. Given how well Middlefield is working perhaps they could be swung for more.

    Posted 6 months ago #
  26. chdot
    Admin

  27. Stickman
    Member

    Traffic backed up from Roseburn to Western Corner this morning. The van loading* can't have helped. These plans which stop peak time loading should improve things.

    *it genuinely was loading for once.

    Posted 6 months ago #
  28. HankChief
    Member

    Chdot - that's the update from the start of the month.

    The latest update (emailed yesterday) is update 6 and should be upload here shortly.

    Apparently it needs to go to a different team to get uploaded which takes a day or so.

    Posted 6 months ago #
  29. chdot
    Admin

    Ah, should have checked!

    (Got email too.)

    Posted 6 months ago #
  30. chdot
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