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Roseburn to Leith consultation begins (and the debate continues!)

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  1. chdot
    Admin

  2. piosad
    Member

    The Damascene conversion from anti-cycling NIMBY to anti-car NIMBY?.. I guess we can take it

    Posted 6 months ago #
  3. HankChief
    Member

    The Roseburn Cycle Route Group are holding their AGM on 12th March 7.30-9.00pm.
    Dove Lounge, Murrayfield Church Centre.

    Hope to see some of you there. More details in link.

    https://www.roseburncycleroute.org.uk/blog/agm-12th-march-2018

    Posted 6 months ago #
  4. HankChief
    Member

    CEC are consulting on the next stage of the CCWEL. Be interesting to see how ambitious they are for linking Melville Street & Charlotte Sq

    "The drop-in session will take place on Tuesday 20 February from 1pm-7pm at Harry’s Bar, 7B Randolph Place"

    http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/blog/newsblog/post/1267/have_your_say_on_plans_for_randolph_place

    Posted 6 months ago #
  5. neddie
    Member

    Reminder - tomorrow

    The drop-in session will take place on Tuesday 20 February from 1pm-7pm at Harry’s Bar, 7B Randolph Place.

    Three different options for the redesign of Randolph Place will be presented at the session and the CCWEL team will be keen take on board people's feedback on the options.

    Following the drop-in there will be an online consultation on the council’s Consultation Hub, so that anyone who is unable to make the session in person can still take part in the process.

    Information regarding this session will be available on the Council’s website from Tomorrow [16th Feb].

    Councillor Lesley Macinnes, Transport and Environment Convener, said: "We're really keen to hear from as many people as possible as we shape the detailed designs for this pioneering CCWEL project. Once complete, it's anticipated to prompt a real step change in how people travel to and through the city centre, with journeys by bike expected to increase dramatically."

    This section of the CCWEL project (Section 2 from Haymarket to Charlotte Square) will be progressing through a statutory consultation later this year as part of the Traffic Regulation Order which will be required to deliver the project.

    At this time the public will be able to comment or object on aspects of the overall CCWEL project throughout the West End.

    For more information or to sign up to the CCWEL mailing list please get in touch.

    Rurigdh McMeddes

    https://consultationhub.edinburgh.gov.uk/sfc/randolph_place/

    (not open until 20th Feb)

    Posted 5 months ago #
  6. paulmilne
    Member

    I will be passing there on my evening ride to waverley so will try to pop in.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  7. neddie
    Member

    Opening in 7 minutes...

    Tuesday 20 February from 1pm-7pm at Harry’s Bar, 7B Randolph Place.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  8. HankChief
    Member

    Anyone go?

    From the picture on this tweet it looks like the choice is on how much car parking and/ or trees we want to have on Randolph Place.

    Option 1 looks best from that photo

    Posted 5 months ago #
  9. paulmilne
    Member

    Yes, I went.

    The difference between the options:

    1. Two way on Randolph place with one way on Charlotte Lane. Parking on one side of Randolph Place.

    2. Two way on Randolph place with Charlotte Lane closed apart from some delivery times. Parking on one side of Randolph Place.

    3. One way onto Randolph place from Queeensferry Street and one way on Charlotte Lane, so traffic flow would be one way. Contraflow for bikes plus parking on two sides of Randolph place resulting in a narrower carriageway.

    All three options include Randolph Place being on a raised table.

    My preference would be for option 2. It keeps parking down, and maximises pedestrian experience of Charlote lane. I don't like the idea of Option 3 with a narrower carriageway to accommodate a bike contraflow with parking on both sides. Feels less safe to me.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  10. paulmilne
    Member

    Larger plans and link to the consultation is here:

    https://consultationhub.edinburgh.gov.uk/sfc/randolph_place/

    Having said that the consultation form failed for me, so I will try again later.

    In the extra comments I also suggested a bikes only lights phase on the Junction with Queensferry Street as they are wanting to route a lot of bike traffic through there.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  11. neddie
    Member

    SPOKES' response to the Randolph Place consultation:

    http://www.spokes.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/1802-RANDOLPH-PLACE-Spokes-comments-final.pdf

    Posted 5 months ago #
  12. HankChief
    Member

    Latest drafts of the layout for old Colt Bridge.

    https://www.murrayfieldcc.org.uk/news/more-detailed-plans-old-colt-bridge-area

    The public realm improvements are being well received by the community.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  13. chdot
    Admin

    “The public realm improvements are being well received by the community.“

    Surely not, that means change!

    Posted 5 months ago #
  14. chdot
    Admin

    The economic benefits are also clear: improved walking infrastructure can increase retail sales by 30%. London has witnessed it on Oxford Street where the creation of a Tokyo-style pedestrian crossing led to a 25% increase in turnover in the adjacent stores.

    https://www.adamsmith.org/blog/why-walkable-cities-enjoy-more-freedom

    Posted 5 months ago #
  15. HankChief
    Member

    Reminder that the Roseburn Cycle Group is holding its AGM on Monday night.

    Please join us.

    https://www.roseburncycleroute.org.uk/blog/agm-reminder-12th-march

    Posted 5 months ago #
  16. paulmilne
    Member

    In case people hadn't heard on the Randolph Place consultation, Option 2 had the most votes so that is what they are taking forward.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  17. HankChief
    Member

    TRO process will be starting next month...

    https://www.murrayfieldcc.org.uk/news/cycleway-consultation-drop-sessions

    "The consultation period for Section 1 of the CCWEL is expected to run from the 2nd week in April (week beg 9th) to the 2nd week in June (week beg 7th), exact dates to be confirmed.

    "As part of this TRO we will be holding two public drop in sessions, one in Roseburn (Bloemen Ecke) on the 17th of April, the other in Haymarket (Apex Hotel) on the 19th of April. Both session will run from 1pm till 7pm."

    Posted 4 months ago #
  18. Stickman
    Member

    Does this mean the Pied Piper and his merry gang will start their objections again?

    Posted 4 months ago #
  19. crowriver
    Member

    No doubt...

    Posted 4 months ago #
  20. chdot
    Admin

    Dear all,

    Please find attached the latest Project Update Bulletin for the City Centre West to East Cycle Link and Street Improvements project (CCWEL).

    These updates are sent out approximately once a month and provide an update on current project progress and activity.

    This document contains information regarding the TRO and RSO Statutory Consultation Programme for Section 1 (Roseburn to Haymarket).

    The statutory consultation for the Traffic Regulation Order (TRO) and Redetermination Order (RSO) is due to commence in early April. As part of this process we will be letter dropping all premises in the local area as well as hosting two public drop-in sessions, one in Roseburn the Other in Haymarket.

    Roseburn Public Drop-In: Tuesday 17 April, 1pm-7pm at 6 Murrayfield Place (formerly Bloemen Ecke)

    Haymarket Public Drop-In: Thursday 19 April, 1pm-7pm at the Apex Haymarket Hotel, Haymarket Terrace

    This update also includes the results of the recent consultation regarding public realm designs for Randolph Place, as well as updates on the public realm improvement projects for ‘Rejuvenating Roseburn’ and Melville Crescent.

    If you have any questions regarding information within this document, or if you would like to be removed from the circulation of this mailing list please do not hesitate to get in touch.

    In addition, please feel free to circulate this information to anyone else you think may be interested in the project. If you know of anyone who would like to be added to this mailing list please encourage them to contact me and I can ensure they are included.

    More information regarding the CCWEL project can be found at our dedicated project web-page: http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/ccwel

    More information regarding ‘Rejuvenating Roseburn – Delivering the Roseburn Action Plan’ can be found at the web-page: http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/RejuvenatingRoseburn

    Thank you all for your time.

    I hope you all had a cracking festive season.

    Kind regards,

    Rurigdh

    Rurigdh McMeddes
    Stakeholder Liaison Officer – City Centre West to East Link and Cycle Improvements | Road Safety & Active Travel | The City of Edinburgh Council | Planning & Transport | Place | Level C2 Waverley Court | 4 East Market Street | Edinburgh, EH8 8BG Tel 0131 469 3606 | Rurigdh.McMeddes@edinburgh.gov.uk | http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/CCWEL

    Posted 4 months ago #
  21. Rosie
    Member

    Bumping the drop ins

    Roseburn Public Drop-In: Tuesday 17 April, 1pm-7pm at 6 Murrayfield Place (formerly Bloemen Ecke)

    Haymarket Public Drop-In: Thursday 19 April, 1pm-7pm at the Apex Haymarket Hotel, Haymarket Terrace

    Posted 4 months ago #
  22. HankChief
    Member

    The detailed designs won't be released until the TRO process formally opens on Friday 20th, so this is an early chance to see them and ask questions.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  23. HankChief
    Member

    Information event Today 1-7pm!

    Posted 4 months ago #
  24. HankChief
    Member

    Went along in the way home. Some good mock ups and plenty of people to talk to.

    Been busy all afternoon with a mixed bag of reactions.

    Another drop in sessions on Thursday at the Apex, Haymarket and then designs release on the web & TRO process starts...

    Posted 4 months ago #
  25. Klaxon
    Member

    I don't understand the game of 'don't share on the internet' during some public consultations

    It's as if they don't want people coming in ready to debate a point, instead having to spend their entire visit forming an opinion.

    Posted 4 months ago #
  26. Stickman
    Member

    I went along to the Apex. Plans haven't really changed from those that followed the stakeholder group.

    Disappointingly they will be relying on the good nature of drivers not to park on the lane. Just like on Leith Walk.

    Construction anticipated to start Autumn 2019. Meanwhile in Glasgow: https://mobile.twitter.com/scwfriends/status/986305685230096384

    Posted 3 months ago #
  27. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    they will be relying on the good nature of drivers not to park on the lane

    Sounds like a job for Protection Not Paint!

    Posted 3 months ago #
  28. Stickman
    Member

    Yes, the council rep said that the kerb between the road and cycle lane would deter people from parking on it. I raised my eyebrows.

    Posted 3 months ago #
  29. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    the kerb between the road and cycle lane would deter people from parking on it

    Well that's true for those in Ferraris.

    Posted 3 months ago #
  30. HankChief
    Member

    Popped in at the close of the information event tonight. Seemed to have been another busy day - over 100 people had signed the visitor sheet.

    While I was there, it seemed to be a tough crowd, but CEC doing their best to explain the designs.

    Formal TRO process starts tomorrow. Hold onto your hats...

    Posted 3 months ago #

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