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"One chain of thought is that it increases tribalism and you are on my side so fair game for buzzing past."
Saw three of those, just after the twisty bit through the buildings. Three metres of empty path on the other side of the line, but they still maintain speed, maintain course, curl their lip in disgust and ding away.
It is a 3 month trial, so opportunity for the white lines to be removed.
I think it's better to consistently use different surfaces for pedestrians and cyclists if you're going to separate them (and plenty of room for pedestrians to spread out, who wants to walk in single file when you're with people?).
I think in Leicester they had settled on that slightly gritty looser surface (I forget what it's called) for pedestrians and coloured tarmac for cyclists.
Was going round the Meadows last night at commuter pace (not ambling not rushing) and had to swerve to avoid a few young kids casually wandering into the cycle lane.
They just have no notion of what a white line means and why should they? The cycle lane should be raised and set apart from the walkway.
Re Roseburn Park - I am sure some complaints are justified.
It's the same as the towpath - not suitable for commuters.
Re The Meadows - I thought that people kept pretty well to their own territories. I like the idea of different surfaces and colours.
Also - MMW is straight and has the air of a direct route. Roseburn Park is a meander with a corner.
IWRATS - I was in Copenhagen with my sister and was constantly shrieking at her "You're walking in the CYCLE LANE." Perhaps people have to have that imprinted at an early age, like looking right & left.
It seems downright perverse to insist on shared paths in parks like Roseburn and the Meadows that have more than enough space to accommodate two distinct paths.
Same for the shared path running west from Saughton Road north. A good hundred yards between the road and the tram embankment, so of course they put in one single shared use path that hugs the road.
@paulmilne Amusingly at SRN the pedestrians have forged several long desire lines across the grass to get to the tram stop, since the designers were thinking only in right-angles...
@Snowy, yes, I've noticed that too. And the signalised crossing is perfect for where the bus stop used to be 2 or 3 years ago, before the tram works.
"One chain of thought is that it increases tribalism and you are on my side so fair game for buzzing past."
Remembering of course that while there is a restriction on cyclists using the pedestrian side of a path, pedestrians (under our bizarre legislation) are quite at liberty to wander on the side marked with a bike. If we are to have segregation, it should include some dedicated facilities for cyclists with the word 'Only' underneath the pictures of bike and ped.
I used to commute through roseburn park maybe ten years back but never saw much conflict or speeding ? some but nowt special. You could go on grass round peds etc. Worse after roseburn cliff on the WoL Path?
Any shared use path will have conflict of course.
At least never any horses.
@gembo - with the opening of the route by the tramway and this being part of an official Quiet Route, I imagine Roseburn Park is a lot busier than 10 years ago.
“with the opening of the route by the tramway and this being part of an official Quiet Route, I imagine Roseburn Park is a lot busier than 10 years ago.”
PLUS the new/wider tarmac bit by the WoL.
@rosie, could be
Recent trips down that way I have liked the upgrade of the path by the river where the flood defences are. The park has been quiet. The sports changing rooms are gone.
@Gembo - Alas, the wildlife corridor and lilac hedge have gone as well. I have memories of May with hawthorn blossom, cow parsley and bats. I am not happy about the smooth sterile look.
However there's now access down the river bank, which makes it more fun for dogs and their walkers.
@rosie they also took out a lot of horrible dead trees
I'm through there most days on my bike and cyclists and pedestrians seem to navigate around each other okay. I do object to some cyclists maintaining full tilt when peds are around.
Most fun in the morning when kids are off to Roseburn Primary on squads of tiny bikes and scooters, often accompanied by strolling parents or parents going very slowly on their big bikes. I'm usually cycling against this tide and naturally slow right down the better to navigate through to calmer waters.
Remember when Frank Ross opposed this because shops wouldn't be able to load?
https://twitter.com/frankross06/status/993755289886347264
"This project in central Brussels will be 2 years in completion. All shops still open and trading - deliveries being made by hand cart"
Despite Cllr Ross' Damascene conversion to active travel, I can't forgive him for bouncing the Picardy Place/St James GAM agreement through Council with only two days notice, under the obscure heading "The Edinburgh 12".
He should be interned in a locked filing cabinet, inside a disused toilet, in a basement, with a sign reading "Beware the leopard" hung on the door.
I couldn't remember what the deadline for notes of support for the TRO was. I've just checked and it's next Friday the 18th. Don't forget to send a message before that.
Please do respond to the TRO & RSO process. We don't want the Council to lose ambition...
Details here
https://www.roseburncycleroute.org.uk/blog/consultation-ends-soon
There will be a TEC meeting on 20th June who will consider the responses.
I sent my comments to Rurigdh. To keep up momentum
Roll up roll up, get your comments in...
Is there a form? I just emailed Rurigdh. He has a dog he has knitted from excess beard. It is very cute.
I couldn't find a form. The website suggests emailing trafficorders[at]edinburgh.gov.uk or sending a letter to 249 High Street.
They need your full name and address, so if you omit these, you'll get a reply asking what they are.
Yes, email traffic orders and quote TRO 17/91 plus give your name and address.
Done (again)
Transform Scotland have their response in. Is yours in? (Deadline this Friday!)
"Dear Sir/Madam,
City Centre West to East Cycle Link Section 1: Roseburn-Haymarket
I am writing on behalf of Transform Scotland regarding Traffic Order TRO/17/91; RSO/18/05.
We wish to make the following comments:
1. We strongly welcome the commitment to implementing fully segregated off-road cycle routes on one of the key arterial routes into the city. To meet the Scottish Government's 10% target in the Cycling Action Plan for Scotland, it is necessary to create conditions that encourage those with less experience of cycling to make everyday journeys, such as commuting to work by bike. As such, the City of Edinburgh Council is to be commended regarding its proposals here.
2. We welcome the provision of an inbound bus lane over a significant part of the route.
3. However, we suggest the removal of a parking bay from the West Coates section of the bus priority lane as we do not think that parking is necessary at this location, and would certainly hinder the
effective operation of the bus priority on this corridor (even acknowledging that the parking provision is intended to be short-stay and off-peak). Furthermore, we have concerns as to whether this short-stay parking would be effectively enforced.
Kind regards,
Jamie Wylie
on behalf of Transform Scotland"
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Furthermore, we have concerns as to whether this short-stay parking would be effectively enforced.
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Wonder why??
Deadline is tomorrow, Friday 18th May.
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