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Roseburn to Leith consultation begins (and the debate continues!) CCWEL

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  1. chdot
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    Absolutely accept feedback from folks that we could and should have explained the reasons and rationale for the amendment better. Lessons learned for the future! 3/

    https://twitter.com/kevin_lang/status/1009476940326146048

    Says elected, professional, politician.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  2. chdot
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  3. Rosie
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  4. HankChief
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  5. gembo
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    Just not the MSP's councillor colleagues who voted with the Tories, raised potentially derailing amendments etc. The lib dems were doing that in another committee yesterday too. Looks like some entente cordiale between Tories and lib dems at the moment. Greens also voting with the Tories in the other committee. That is I guess their prerogative. At least greens supporting the coalition on active travel still.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  6. I were right about that saddle
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    Looks like some entente cordiale between Tories and lib dems at the moment.

    STV is designed to force co-working if not collaboration or coalition? Interesting to see who makes whose cocoa before bed though.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  7. HankChief
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  8. gembo
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    looks like the wrong liberal on the transport cttee?

    On the cocoa front I was told something startling the other day.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  9. crowriver
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    @gembo, "the other committee" - which one? Development Management Sub-Committee? Seemed to be mostly planning applications for digital advertising hoardings...

    Posted 5 years ago #
  10. Frenchy
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    DM subcommittee was Wednesday. Education committee was yesterday, so I presume @gembo's meaning the decision not to merge schools in the south west.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  11. gembo
    Member

    @ Frenchy you are correct

    Posted 5 years ago #
  12. chdot
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  13. gembo
    Member

    Nice merger of the two themes @chdot

    Posted 5 years ago #
  14. chdot
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  15. Frenchy
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    https://www.christinejardine.com/clean_air_petition_launched

    Lib Dems (including Cllr Gloyer) call for something to be done about pollution in Corstorphine, Murrayfield and Queensferry Road.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  16. crowriver
    Member

    LibDems: "Something Must Be Done About Air Pollution"
    CEC: "How about segregated cycle lanes and reducing parking/loading?"
    LibDems: "No thanks, this is Edinburgh and local residents need to park and load their cars! Something Else Must Be Done. We're a bit vague about what exactly".

    Posted 5 years ago #
  17. jonty
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    The proposed Glasgow LEZ area is quite big. As far as I understand it, Edinburgh is already on track to get one too at some point. Corstorphine isn't far from the city centre and has having headline-grabbingly dirty air. Surely any sensible LEZ proposal will almost certainly include it.

    So, thinking cynically, is this just a way of being able to claim credit for something that is very likely to happen anyway?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  18. gembo
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    Lib dems truly lost their mojo.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  19. HankChief
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    Maybe someone can help me understand this.

    Say the LEZ was the bypass. If I lived and worked inside the bypass and drive my kids to school (inside the bypass), then could I avoid paying the LEZ charge?

    If it is just a boundary then you need to be careful not to be too big or you'll have limited impact on locals.

    That said, it may be more impactful at influencing the behaviour of outsiders...

    Posted 5 years ago #
  20. Frenchy
    Member

    If I lived and worked inside the bypass and drive my kids to school (inside the bypass), then could I avoid paying the LEZ charge?

    As I understand it, with a single cordon, yes. But one option is to have multiple cordons/zones, with a charge for crossing any of them.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  21. HankChief
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  22. gembo
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    not too windy last night so that should have worked. Is there not an poutdoor one in Roseburn Park?

    Martin

    Posted 5 years ago #
  23. Frenchy
    Member

    Very good.

    I think there are a couple of outdoor table tennis tables in Edinburgh - one at Prestonfield Park and one very recently put in at Seven Acre Park near Mortonhall. Possibly others.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  24. dessert rat
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    yup - one in King George V Park at the bottom of Scot St, it gets a lot of use.

    Although it is taking up the space of 2 or 3 potential permitted car parking spots, so CEC seem to have missed a trick, I'm sure they'll get round to rectifying that soon enough.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  25. HankChief
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  26. chdot
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    With a strong sense of deja vu, we listened while two Councillors in particular raised many concerns that have been answered before by the Council Officers and here on this site.

    Great set of responses.

    Certain councillors should ask themselves whose views they think they ‘represent’ and then tell everyone else why they are doing this.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  27. HankChief
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  28. chdot
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    That is an impressive set of minutes.

    ‘We’ have had issues with some of the attitudes of MCC - particularly due to the dubious campaign against the active travel improvements (campaign NOT by MCC).

    Some of this is clearly running on - aided by some cllrs who, perhaps, ought to know better.

    However, the minutes highlight the number and scale of issues that affect some local areas and the problems of dealing with them by groups of volunteers trying to do what they think is best for their local area in the face of vested interests (often welll funded and/or well-connected).

    Council officials are often in the middle of this.

    8. Rejuvenating Roseburn update
    R McMeddes explained that he had hoped to launch the public consultation on the Rejuvenating Roseburn project by now, but the workload generated by the public consultation on the draft TRO and RSO had prevented this. He expected to do so in the autumn and would consult MCC over the summer on what form the consultation is to take.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  29. gembo
    Member

    Several members of MCC seem obsessed with complaining about cyclists? Thank goodness for Hankchief.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  30. HankChief
    Member

    So there is a meeting later this week to discuss how best to delineate the roadway, cycleway and footway for the new Roseburn Terrace, especially as there is frequent loading.

    Anyone got any good examples or suggestions?

    Thanks

    Posted 5 years ago #

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