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Roseburn to Leith consultation begins (and the debate continues!) CCWEL

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  1. Stickman
    Member

    I stopped on the way home. The illustration of the potential viewing platform makes it very clear that no trees will be cut down, so that’s another lie from PGTips.

    I’d already filled in the survey online so I told Ruridgh he had my full support. He is possibly the most patient man on earth if he has managed to stand there all day without breaking Rule 2.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  2. chdot
    Admin

    “He is possibly the most patient man on earth if he has managed to stand there all day without breaking Rule 2.”

    Many ‘objectors’ been by?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  3. Stickman
    Member

    When I was there a couple of stony faced grey-haired men were chuntering on about something in a disagreeable manner. I didn’t stop to listen too closely.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  4. gembo
    Member

    Helped Big R in with his consultation table and banner and stuff when he got back to the office. Good lad.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  5. chdot
    Admin

    Any ‘tales’?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  6. gembo
    Member

    No big R keeps a silent counsel

    Posted 5 years ago #
  7. urchaidh
    Member

    I found PG very difficult to deal with. When all our kids had bad colds a few winters back I contacted him to buy some of his Kid Snot Suits, but he was distinctly offhand. No way to run a business.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  8. gembo
    Member

    @urchaidh

    Yes he could make money selling those Kid Snot Suits if he could stay focussed on reality

    Posted 5 years ago #
  9. steveo
    Member

    Typical british business technique, look all eccentric and wait for a big american firm to buy you out.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  10. Rosie
    Member

    @urchaidh - If your kids had colds, aren't you a supplier of Kid Snot to make the suits, not a purchaser? No wonder he was offhand.

    The harvesting of the material sounds a little onerous - worse than tattie picking.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  11. acsimpson
    Member

    I find that kids are generally quite happy self harvesting...

    Sadly PG appears to be below such highbrow activities as picking ones nose in another's direction.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  12. urchaidh
    Member

    When my kids have colds I need appropriate PPE:

    Posted 5 years ago #
  13. Rosie
    Member

    @urchaidh Are your kids called Cher and Nobyl?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  14. fimm
    Member

    Went through Roseburn last night but didn't spot the boards.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  15. Rosie
    Member

    @fimm - the officials told me they were taking them down.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  16. Rosie
    Member

    REJUVENATING ROSEBURN
    SPOKES response to consultation

    Deadline 7 May 2019

    SPOKES supports the recent proposals for improving the local environment around the Water of Leith in Roseburn.

    However, SPOKES believes that significant improvements in the environment of Roseburn as a whole will only be possible when measures have been put in place to reduce the level of motor traffic passing through the area which is the major cause of poor air quality and noise. We look forward to the Council bringing forward suitable measures as part of its air quality and city mobility strategies.

    Specifically on the detailed proposals currently out to consultation, we have the following comments:

    1. The Council has undertaken to ensure that cycling will be possible across the Old Bridge over the Water of Leith. Any renewal of the surfacing on the bridge should be consistent with the Council’s Strategy on Setts which states that:

    As such, any construction or re‐construction of setted streets in Edinburgh which is regularly used by cyclists and pedestrians should use setts in a way that facilitates active travel. This may mean using the sawn edge on the upward facing side or, especially at crossing points for walking and, where possible, design features, such as strips of flat‐top setts to aid cycling.

    Details of this will be established in the Street Design Guidance factsheet on setted streets

    2. The Council should ensure that effective measures are taken to prevent cars from parking across the entrance/exit to this bridge on Murrayfield Place which could obstruct access by both cyclists and pedestrians.

    3. Before going ahead with these environmental improvement measures, the Council should check that none of the detailed proposals would obstruct the extension of the CCWEL westwards. We understand that it is possible that the City Mobility strategy may commit the Council to progressively constructing segregated cycleways on all the main arterial routes into central Edinburgh. If this policy is adopted then an extension of the CCWEL towards Corstorphine and beyond would be a top priority.
    consultationhub.edinburgh.gov.uk/sfc/rejuvenating-roseburn

    Posted 5 years ago #
  17. HankChief
    Member

    Consultation on Rejuvanating Roseburn closes tomorrow (Tuesday)

    Get your views in...

    https://www.roseburncycleroute.org.uk/rejuvenating-roseburn-our-response-survey

    Posted 5 years ago #
  18. Rosie
    Member

    Cripes, Friends of Roseburn Park are now advertising a "Labour Against Zionist Islamophobic Racism" event in London! That must be the talk of the play park and the bulb planters.

    PG was expelled from the GMB for anti-semitism. Account of it here:-

    https://shirazsocialism.wordpress.com/2019/03/11/why-the-gmb-rejected-peter-gregsons-appeal/

    Posted 5 years ago #
  19. Stickman
    Member

    Wow. I thought relocating the playpark was a controversial enough topic.

    @Rosie: your link must be a bit out of date - it says that a group called Labour Against The Witchunt has been supporting PG. From his most recent updates PG says that he has been thrown out of that group. All a bit Judean Peoples Front.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  20. Rosie
    Member

    @Stickman

    The intricacies of fringe anti-Israel politics in the Labour Party are not so much the Life of Brian but Kafka.

    Yes, PG and Labour Against the Witchhunt (Tony Greenstein) have had a falling out.

    For an update here:-

    https://tendancecoatesy.wordpress.com/2019/04/16/labour-against-the-witch-hunt-faces-new-crisis-over-members-support-for-holocaust-denier/

    Posted 5 years ago #
  21. Stickman
    Member

    What status do the “Friends of...” groups have - do they get council support or funding? Seems highly inappropriate use of their name.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  22. Rosie
    Member

    They do get money from Murrayfield CC.

    Also got £3000 from West Edinburgh Neighbourhood Partnership for a mural on the Armoury.

    Totally inappropriate, I agree, and I imagine other Friends won't be happy about it.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  23. Rosie
    Member

    One isn't:-

    ""The Friends of Roseburn Park SCIO is a Charity who’s sole purposes are “The provision of recreational facilities, or the organisation of recreational activities, with the object of improving the conditions of life for the persons for whom the facilities or activities are primarily intended". Political statements of any kind have no place here and admin should immediately remove this post in my opinion."

    Posted 5 years ago #
  24. gembo
    Member

    Jeepers, likely to be identical number of people in these leftist groups as posters on their websites.

    Three in total maybe?

    See also extreme Presbyterian and Brethren groups. All prone to falling out and splitting.

    Twenty years back when I knew PG he was far nearer the mainstream average.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  25. Rosie
    Member

    “A new campaign group, “Labour Against Zionist Islamophobic Racism”, or LAZIR, has been set up to support Jeremy Corbyn and campaign for the International Definition of Antisemitism to be dropped and for the Jewish Labour Movement to be thrown out of the Labour Party. The group’s logo is a laser beam smashing the logo of a Jewish Labour group.

    The founder appears to be Pete Gregson, who was reportedly expelled by the GMB Union after he claimed that Israel was a “racist endeavour” that “exaggerates” the Nazi Germany’s genocide of six million Jews “for political ends.” According to a post on his Facebook page, Labour Against the Witch Hunt, are seeking to expel him from their group. If he is expelled, Mr Gregson has vowed to hold a launch event for LAZIR outside Labour Headquarters in London.

    Interestingly, this is the second time that Labour Against the Witch Hunt has split, the first time being when Gerry Downing was expelled and founded Labour Against the Witch Hunt Within Labour Against the Witch Hunt, both of which met at opposite sides of the same pub at the same time. Mr Downing, who was himself expelled from the Labour Party due to his views on the Holocaust, now appears to be advising Mr Gregson on policy for LAZIR.

    LAZIR, which is not to be confused with the villages of Lazir in Iran and Azerbaijan, the popular Lazir karaoke bar in Mexico, or the very catchy Lazir Lazir song, has already attracted thousands of supporters, according to a petition which was launched to support the group on April Fools’ Day.”

    https://antisemitism.uk/labour-against-zionist-islamophobic-racism-launches-to-drive-zionism-out-of-the-labour-party-and-fight-antisemitism-but-not-the-fraudulent-kind/

    Posted 5 years ago #
  26. Rosie
    Member

    The post on the Friends of Roseburn Park has been taken down.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  27. Stickman
    Member

    Boy, that escalated quickly.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  28. Rosie
    Member

    Yeah, we should have had 3 consultations and a hearing to get rid of that.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  29. chdot
    Admin

    Perhaps there is another organisation he will be expelled from soon?

    How does he find time to do all these interesting things??

    Posted 5 years ago #
  30. gembo
    Member

    Opposite side of the same pub at the same time. Classic.

    Posted 5 years ago #

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