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Roseburn to Leith consultation begins (and the debate continues!)

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  1. chdot
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  2. HankChief
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    https://twitter.com/Edinburgh_CC/status/1493253224253599756?t=wRJfu0ZIa0-XuDYtVPtN3A&s=19

    "The City Centre West to East Link project team has just finished their last cycle training session. They’re cutting carbon footprints by using bikes instead of cars to get between compound + work sites wherever possible. Find out more about the project: https://t.co/gFYWswNajX "

    Posted 9 months ago #
  3. HankChief
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    And here is Spokes' plotted history of the CCWEL project if you want to remind yourself of what we have all been through.

    http://www.spokes.org.uk/2022/02/ccwel-work-begins-after-an-arduous-evolution/

    Posted 9 months ago #
  4. HankChief
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    Despite hearing various complaints about not seeing anyone working in Roseburn*, the project is now about to start Section 2 between Haymarket & Randolph Place - initially by St Mary's...

    https://twitter.com/Edinburgh_CC/status/1497300406866788352?t=Mh1b-PNf7uLWXfGLT1vIdg&s=19

    *I also heard complaints when the team were working at 11pm to remove the traffic island and keeping everyone awake...

    Posted 9 months ago #
  5. CycleAlex
    Member

    Glad to see Bishop's Walk being in the first phase of works - even without the rest of the route this will be a very useful cut through.

    I did think things were a little slow, presumably waiting on utility works of some sort?

    Posted 9 months ago #
  6. HankChief
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  7. Yodhrin
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    I mean, you feel for them(assuming the claims are genuine/the cause they identify is accurate), but why would they deserve compensation more than the next group of traders inconvenienced by roadworks, or the one after that, or the one after that? The trams project was a unique situation in that works would be ongoing on the route for years, and they'd be going back and forth working on areas multiple times, there's no more disruption going on with CCWEL than there is with any major road resurfacing/pavement refreshing/infrastructure works.

    Further, given the realities of the distribution of a customers for local business in terms of who comes by car and who walks, buses, and cycles...well, frankly, if not being able to park right outside your front door causes a 70% drop in your takings, you never had a viable business in the first place.

    Posted 8 months ago #
  8. HankChief
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    Ah election time...

    When local candidates jump into the long running issues.

    The Labour candidate has put out a petition to get compensation for Roseburn traders...

    "I spent the afternoon out in Roseburn with Lezley Marion Cameron talking to business owners.

    The Council made a mistake in rejecting their deputation and I'm collecting signatures to reopen this issue.

    Sign to support.

    Compensate the Roseburn Traders"

    https://twitter.com/RP4CM/status/1507443639974342659?t=-CBacVdY7Pk8NbMqQwT6WQ&s=19

    Posted 8 months ago #
  9. chdot
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    Compensate the Roseburn Traders
    0 have signed. Let’s get to 100!

    Posted 8 months ago #
  10. HankChief
    Member

    You mean you haven't sign it. <shock> :)

    Posted 8 months ago #
  11. chdot
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    Wot about you??

    Posted 8 months ago #
  12. HankChief
    Member

    I've mislaid my pen...

    It would be really interesting where he thinks he would fund it from... (as well as how it differs from every other set of roadworks).

    Posted 8 months ago #
  13. chdot
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    I can lend you a pencil..

    Posted 8 months ago #
  14. chdot
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    FoRP says 1,800 pedestrians and 450 cyclists use the park every day and they believe the cafe will draw even more users to enjoy the park.

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/council/edinburgh-communitys-plans-to-convert-toilets-into-cafe-about-to-get-under-way-3625895?itm_source=parsely-api

    Posted 8 months ago #
  15. HankChief
    Member

    There is an obvious question of whether the Roseburn Terrace cafe owners will be compensated for any lost of trade from the cafe in the Park.

    But on a more serious note, I have some concerns about what measures will be put in place during the construction work and once it is opened how interactions with cafe visitors will pan out, given it is adjacent to a busy cycle path.

    Posted 8 months ago #
  16. chdot
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    “There is an obvious question of whether the Roseburn Terrace cafe owners will be compensated for any lost of trade from the cafe in the Park.“

    Especially when they see this -


    and last year they secured £66,000 from the council to take the scheme forward.

    Posted 8 months ago #
  17. chdot
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    Posted 8 months ago #
  18. HankChief
    Member

    Quelle surprise (you don't need to click it you can guess what it says about Mr Parker going against his Labour Cllrs' position)

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/opinion/columnists/labour-shares-blame-for-roseburn-traders-plight-amid-cycleway-roadworks-john-mclellan-3633475

    Posted 8 months ago #
  19. Frenchy
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    I am intrigued by Mr McLellan's thoughts on local councillors being out of step with their national leadership/policies.

    I presume this is not something which occurs in whichever party Mr McLellan is a member of?

    Posted 8 months ago #
  20. chdot
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  21. chdot
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    The contractors are shuffling work around to keep busy while the asbestos & other issues are being dealt with.

    They have also had to deal with a major gas leak caused by a badly corroded subterranean mains pipe & a shop's water pipe being within the previous asphalt layer.

    https://twitter.com/roseburncycle/status/1509259359368450056

    Posted 8 months ago #
  22. chdot
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  23. toomanybikes
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    I can't seem to re-find the final construction diagrams. Want to know what the bit around Rosebery Crescent looks like.

    Can find two designs but only one has banned left turns.

    Link on the CCWEL website from 6 months ago no longer work

    Found them https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/ccwel/downloads/download/8/general-arrangements?downloadID=8

    Posted 8 months ago #
  24. chdot
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    The plans include some of Edinburgh’s busiest and most iconic streets. Construction is due to start in 2024 and the route – taking in Teviot Place, Forrest Road, George IV Bridge, the Mound and Hanover Street – will integrate with the George Street and First New Town scheme, which is scheduled for a construction start later the same year.

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/edinburgh-city-centre-final-proposals-published-for-cycleways-and-pedestrian-priority-areas-on-meadows-to-george-street-route-3644833

    Posted 8 months ago #
  25. HankChief
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  26. chdot
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    “Work has started on a new cobbled loading bay on Roseburn Street.“

    (Setts obviously…)

    Presume that was in “the plan”?

    At least they should last longer than the tarmac.

    Posted 8 months ago #
  27. chdot
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    Posted 8 months ago #
  28. chdot
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    Posted 8 months ago #
  29. CycleAlex
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    Progress seems quite slow in Section 2. ~6 weeks now and not all that much progress on resurfacing nor physical changes. For some reason the path to the Cathedral seems to have been prioritised over the actual CCWEL route... At least Rosebery Crescent is nice and smooth now!

    I'm very much looking forward to section 3 getting started in June on York Place and tying into the existing segregation however.

    Posted 8 months ago #
  30. Stickman
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    Drivers unable to stop to get a tan is a new one.

    Overprovision of tanning shops* across the city nothing to do with it I’m sure.

    https://theedinburghreporter.co.uk/2022/04/roseburn-shop-will-move-to-city-centre-because-of-reduced-sales-due-to-construction-of-cycle-route/

    *allegedly some tanning shops in some parts of the country are money-laundering operations

    Posted 7 months ago #

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