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Roseburn to Leith consultation begins (and the debate continues!)

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  1. CycleAlex
    Member

    Decent bit of progress recently on CCWEL, the eastbound section on Melville Street is pretty much completely surfaced. Shame it's taking so painfully long...

    Posted 2 months ago #
  2. HankChief
    Member

    https://democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/documents/g6471/Public%20reports%20pack%2015th-Dec-2022%2010.00%20City%20of%20Edinburgh%20Council.pdf?T=10

    Page 237 to 246 has the paper going to next weeks full council on compensation for Roseburn traders.

    It suggests (that if agreed) compensation of £3k per trader should be granted - £100k in total for Roseburn Terrace.

    But raises concerns about setting a precedent and where the money will come from...

    Posted 1 month ago #
  3. HankChief
    Member

    4 different motions to be discuss at tomorrow's full council.

    https://democracy.edinburgh.gov.uk/documents/b22355/Motions%20and%20Amendments%2015th-Dec-2022%2010.00%20City%20of%20Edinburgh%20Council.pdf?T=9

    Labour Party haven't put their own motion in.

    Green say no compensation
    SNP, LDs & Tories all have their own motions with slightly different points being made on why Roseburn is special and looking to take the funding from a leftover business support fund.

    We'll see tomorrow, what version wins out..

    Posted 1 month ago #
  4. HankChief
    Member

    No compensation for traders.

    Green & Labour voted it down.

    SNP abstained once their motion (to compensate) was dropped.

    Lib Dem / Tories combined (for compensation) but didn't have the votes

    Posted 1 month ago #
  5. chdot
    Admin

    So SNP didn’t back T/LD to get result they wanted??

    Posted 1 month ago #
  6. neddie
    Member

    No compensation for traders

    Thank God!

    Posted 1 month ago #
  7. Stickman
    Member

    LibDem reactions:

    https://twitter.com/edjthornley/status/1603412610732490752

    “Our way or the highway” from @EDWESTERNSNP - sitting on their hands rather than backing Lib Dem proposals (which included their changes) to help businesses in need. Staggeringly arrogant

    https://twitter.com/euandavidson/status/1603406642992799744

    Utterly shameful behaviour by @edinburghsnp despite their amendment being accepted they just failed to vote for support for our businesses in Roseburn. Politics over people as usual.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  8. Stickman
    Member

    https://twitter.com/philipdoggart/status/1603405615757410304

    Roseburn traders thrown to the wolves by Labour SNP and Greens @Edinburgh_CC

    Posted 1 month ago #
  9. fimm
    Member

    Good news. Would have set a bad precedent otherwise.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  10. Stickman
    Member

  11. chdot
    Admin

    “My business right now is four per cent of last year's December.”

    Um that’s drastic, but all down to not being able to park outside??

    Posted 1 month ago #
  12. gembo
    Member

    Greens held their nerve,

    Posted 1 month ago #
  13. acsimpson
    Member

    @chdot, It's impossible to tell but I'm pretty certain that if he hadn't spent the last 8 years telling everyone that it would be impossible to do business with him while the work was going on he would be a bit busier.

    I wonder how picture framers across the city are faring at the moment? With discretionary spending on a downward trend I can't imagine many are seeing the same numbers that they saw last December. Without any evidence I would also hypothesis that last December was a bumper year.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  14. chdot
    Admin

    “It's impossible to tell“

    Indeed

    “if he hadn't spent the last 8 years telling everyone that it would be impossible to do business with him while the work was going on he would be a bit busier”

    EXCEPT that that attitude should have endeared him to the vast majority of people…

    No idea how much of his business is framing and how much selling stuff.

    Might help if he had a website geared to internet retailing.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  15. Stickman
    Member

  16. gembo
    Member

    Used the framer at top of Leith walk

    Has interesting brothel side line

    Parking not available for either function.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  17. chdot
    Admin

    His resignation will spark a by-election in his Corstorphine/Murrayfield ward.

    Last time results here -

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corstorphine/Murrayfield_(Edinburgh_ward)

    Posted 1 month ago #
  18. Morningsider
    Member

    @gembo - I imagine park and ride is more their thing.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  19. Yodhrin
    Member

    Well we'll find out if this is actually an issue beyond the traders making the most noise about it, hopefully the stroppy numpty hasn't set us up for another Tory councillor.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  20. gembo
    Member

    @morningsider Bdm-Tish.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  21. acsimpson
    Member

    @Yodhrin,

    Based on the last election a third lib dem in the ward looks more likely.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  22. bacam
    Member

    Councils by-elections are badly broken - they don't take sitting councillors into account. So he's practically handed the seat to the Lib Dems.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  23. HankChief
    Member

    The new priority for Russell Rd over Roseburn St has now been painted on the road and queues are now commonplace when heading North on Roseburn St (whereas previously they were more common on Russell Rd).

    Looking back at the 2016 traffic modelling the Northbound routes were the ones taking the lion share of additional queueing from the project - principally from closing the Roseburn Gdns rat run.

    A lot of people getting upset about it on local FB so I'm trying my best to point out that closing the ratrun is the main cause...

    Posted 1 month ago #
  24. chdot
    Admin

    “so I'm trying my best to point out that closing the ratrun is the main cause“

    And that’ll make ‘them’ happy?

    Posted 1 month ago #
  25. HankChief
    Member

    Makes me happy :)

    Posted 1 month ago #
  26. gembo
    Member

    Go Hankchief

    Posted 1 month ago #
  27. CycleAlex
    Member

    If they don’t like the queues now, they’re not going to have a fun time when the pedestrian crossing phase is added to the A8 junction!

    Posted 1 month ago #
  28. Stickman
    Member

    From the latest project update:

    In order to construct the cycleway on Haymarket Terrace we require to divert a Scottish Gas Networks main between Haymarket Yards and Roseberry Crescent. This diversion, and our subsequent works to construct the cycleway in this area, will require a closure of Haymarket Yards to all eastbound traffic from March to October 2023. During this time there will be a diversion in place via Magdala Crescent, Eglinton Crescent and Palmerston Place.

    Possibly a stupid question, but why wasn’t this anticipated when the gas main on Haymarket Terrace was replaced a couple of years ago?

    https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/ccwel/downloads/file/173/project-update-december-2022

    Posted 1 month ago #
  29. chdot
    Admin

    closure of Haymarket Yards

    Presume H Terrace??

    Posted 1 month ago #
  30. chdot
    Admin

    “Possibly a stupid question”

    No

    There might be a sensible answer(?)

    Posted 1 month ago #

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