Just another Roseburn snapshot -
(Yesterday)
CityCyclingEdinburgh Forum » Infrastructure
Roseburn to Leith consultation begins (and the debate continues!) CCWEL
(5559 posts)-
Posted 8 years ago #
-
What time was that?
I've got in the habit of taking a photo of the cars that are inevitably stopped illegally as I pass that way on my way home. It's a tediously predictable event.
What is noticeable is the small number of people walking round the shops at almost any time.
Posted 8 years ago # -
Is the path in Roseburn Park still shut?
Posted 8 years ago # -
The works will be going on for years, but you can currently cycle all through the park and along the WoL path.
Posted 8 years ago # -
ta!
Posted 8 years ago # -
"What time was that?"
Approx 1:20
Posted 8 years ago # -
I've been watching this topic before I discovered this forum. It's very discouraging that someone wants to stop it for the usual reasons and that was before I was hit on Russel road. As I was about to wait for the traffic to pass before I could cross the road to get to the path. Only reason he hit me was because he cut the corner and didn't even look and this was a few weeks before that sign was knocked down.
Posted 8 years ago # -
Welcome Big_Smoke
"because he cut the corner and didn't even look"
All too familiar sadly.
Did you use Russell Road when it was closed to through traffic for bridge work?
Plenty people on here hope that becomes permanent one day! (And/or ban right turns at the junction in the photo above.)
Posted 8 years ago # -
Tesco articulated Lorry pulled over in the eastbound "loading only" bay on the West Coates "Bus Lane".
Driver quite clearly having a kip.
Posted 8 years ago # -
Yesterday was the first time in ages that I used a Roseburn shop other than Tesco or ScotMid. The chemist has a parcel pick-up service which was convenient for me on my way home.
Bike parking in the area is rubbish - I had to chain to the fence on the traffic island.
As usual there were four vehicles stopped in the westbound inside lane - this was at a time when there is no stopping allowed. There was a car loading in the eastbound lane which is allowed: it was for either the barber or the cake shop. Unfortunately it was parked on the pavement.
Don't know the chemist's views on the plan, but I noticed that it is closed on Saturday PM and Sunday, the only time that parking is allowed directly outside their premises.
On the same theme, I've noticed that there is a "Grange Property" branded car which is usually parked outside their office on Haymarket Terrace, despite that bit always being loading-only. They also had one of the anti-cycle lane posters up for a while. Loss of their "parking" spot is probably their issue.
Posted 8 years ago # -
Hello,
Did you use Russell Road when it was closed to through traffic for bridge work?
Well to tell you the truth it wasn't at the end of the junction but at the beginning of the Roseburn path zig zag hill where the tram would have been built towards Granton. I think that junction was closed at one end right? I don't remember that time.
I'm sure you're familiar with the concept if travelling West from Murieston Crescent? Then you must position yourself at the corner just before you wait for traffic to pass and then cross onto the path. He hit me when he turned right and went over the line leaving me with I thought was a twisted arm was a dislocated shoulder.
What's insulting is after revisiting it on video (I only had a helmet camera for barely half a year) is that he wasn't even looking when I fell past the side window, just casually smoking a cigarette even after he stopped and got out to see where my yelling had come from. He denies cutting the corner despite several witnesses spotting him and the police are still investigating. When we discussing it again (saying he didn't know what happened) I spotted more cars cutting the corner and one tandem cycle by following the road towards the end, with mother and child. All the while he didn't seem bothered even when I was pain.
I hate to admit I only got one guys no. and of course thanks to police cuts (thanks for nothing government) the police are processing it slowly only recently picking up the video footage, which I can't post til the case is closed.
As for the bike, the damages include
- Buckled front Rim.
- A broken Brake lever.
- Front forks were carbon fibre (to replace suspension forks) so not to be re-used.
- Bell broken, was a cheap 50 euro cent one but worth more than dearer models on performance alone and possible fixable.
The frame is aluminum but I believe because the forks were carbon fibre they would have reduced the impact enough from the frame to reduce damage. Bike shop says it wasn't twisted but the jury is out if it's still ridable. I'd say if the shop says it's fine but even so.
Posted 8 years ago # -
Coming down Russell Rd from the Dalry end, I ride onto the pavement if there's nothing oncoming, otherwise I go down and turn right at the drop kerb on the corner right next to the path entrance. I know this is the same place you're talking about because drivers are very prone to cut the corner there.
I've captured so many on the mobile etc. there with the benefit of the very close viewing angle they indulge me with.. :s
Posted 8 years ago # -
Nasty, hope you're in touch with a 'cycling lawyer'.
Posted 8 years ago # -
Well someone at work recommend the cycling law company, they are aware of the situation but I want to see the status of the case first before I can claim for compensation and in this case the claim is credible compared to the usual pavement trip drivel.
Posted 8 years ago # -
"I want to see the status of the case first before I can claim for compensation"
Your choice of course, lawyers will advise you on what to make sure you have in terms of evidence - photos of you/bike, details of involvement with hospital/doctors, time off work etc.
I don't know how much difference charges (or not) would make, but lawyers will.
Posted 8 years ago # -
Absolute gold from Mark Treasure.
How to respond to a cycling scheme - an objector's guide.Posted 8 years ago # -
That objector's guide is so true it's not even funny.
Posted 8 years ago # -
Genius. Looks like he taught P.G. Tips everything he knows.
Posted 8 years ago # -
He missed the obvious one about complaining if parking restrictions are changed even if the parking isn't allowed in the first place.
Posted 8 years ago # -
Mark Treasure does not exaggerate about the apocalyptic language used by cycle route opposers. The loss of 2 parking spaces is worse than the blitz, and cyclists may as well be in Panzer tanks for the destruction they are supposed to cause.
Posted 8 years ago # -
Hi Big_Smoke I think it was me on the tandem. I didn't see you get hit, I just saw a car stopped at the bottom of the zigzags and the driver arguing with a cyclist. I'm sorry I didn't stop.
Posted 8 years ago # -
At the spokes meeting I spoke to one of the parents I recognised from roseburn school. He cycles to school everyday with his 8 year old, and doesn't see a need for the new cycle path. He's quite happy to cross Russell road with his child and go along the roseburn place rat run. I have to say he's a pleasant guy who did listen to my reasons for supporting the new path, but I don't think I changed his mind.
Posted 8 years ago # -
daisydaisy you were on a circe helios with yellow ortlieb panniers and wearing an orange helmet right? I don't recall seeing zig-zags just double yellow lines but I wouldn't blame you for not stopping, I had called for an ambulance by then.
It's a pity I couldn't have shown the parent in question the video of me being hit mind, just to add some clarification on how it can happen of course.
Edit - I've just realised zig zags was a term I used for the hill and it had slipped my mind, d'oh.
Posted 8 years ago # -
Ad/article in the Murrayfield Grapevine by Mr G. I can email a photo to someone to upload if you're interested. Also CC minutes mentions his speech but nothing about HankChief's rebuttal.
Posted 8 years ago # -
Just wow...
& as LivD mentioned the abbreviated minutes of MCC miss out the key alternative view...
For those of you not familar with the Grapevine, it is a free pamphlet which is 60 pages of adverts. The above was on page 48, so I doubt it will get many readers, but still...
Posted 8 years ago # -
"...all that would go..."
ALL OF IT. Leaving, as the troll who rides the stone roller-trike in the Neverending Story recounted, "just... nothing...".
Posted 8 years ago # -
P.G. is clearly a holy man, a seer. His visions of the future catastrophe caused by THE TRACK are the truth. The TRUTH. All unbelievers must be shouted down, their voices must be silenced, for theirs are the voices of the Devil himself. And so, P.G. set about His holy mission, knowing as He did so, that to pause for reflection, to doubt for an instant would mean THEY would win. And all that He held most dear, all that would go.
Posted 8 years ago # -
Text from above pic -
"
Campaign against the West Coates Cycle Track
The campaign against the track kicked off on Xmas Eve when local dad and cyclist Pete Gregson realised that Cllr Balfour was talking about something that would ruin his retirement. Mr Gregson is only 58, but he plans to stay in Riversdale for the rest of his life. He knew that without the shops that life there would not be worth living.
For shops, Mr. Gregson reasoned, make a community. And Roseburn has everything- two hairdressers and a barber, a Café, two sandwich and coffee shops, an Indian and Chinese takeaway, a cobblers, two pubs, a chemist, a Scotmid, a Tesco, a PC Repair shop, a dentist, an optician, beauty parlours, an antiques shop, a dog supplies shop- and more- just about everything anybody could ever want.
And he could see all that would go if the track came to Roseburn, for the track would remove their loading and their customers' parking. And so he went to the traders with his idea for a petition to unite everybody in opposing the scheme and asked for £10 each for printing costs. And so 2.000 flyers were purchased and every shop took a signing sheet. In this way, shoppers came to understand what was coming and started signing the petition in their droves.
In a month there were 2,700 signatures and both Lothian Buses and Living Streets Edinburgh were persuaded that the track was a bad idea- they declared it would increase congestion on this. the most congested road. in one of the most congested cities
outside London. And pollution would get worse, they said, on this road leading onto St John's Road, the most polluted road in Scotland.
They noted the bus islands and the loss of the staggered crossings would make life more dangerous for pedestrians and bus passengers alike, yet still Spokes maintain that the track is just what Roseburn needs.
Mr Gregson says "The Council remain wedded to the idea of protected 2-way cycle tracks on arterial routes: they will not decide until June or perhaps August on the scheme. They need convincing- please sign the petition at a shop in Roseburn or Haymarket or online at tinyurl.com/ja2p2kv . My website at http://www.kidsnotsuits.co.uk gives updates. The new track will cost £1m that would be better off in the Council pothole fund."
The track is in solid red on the map; yet there is already the National Cycle Route 1 that does the same route- it is in dashed red."
Posted 8 years ago # -
"life would not be worth living" - isn't such a statement just a little bit inconsiderate towards people who have real problems in life?
Posted 8 years ago # -
Have tweeted Living Streets to see if they are being misrepresented by PG stating they are against the plans due to an increase in congestion.
Posted 8 years ago #
Reply »
You must log in to post.
posts
