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  1. crowriver
    Member

    As I believe I've stated before, for Holyrood I will be voting Green on the regional list ballot paper.

    As I don't have a Green candidate in the constituency of Edinburgh North & Leith (though anyone in Edinburgh Central can vote for Alison Johnstone should they wish), I have a free choice of local candidates. I'm not really tempted to vote Tory, nor Lib Dem. That leaves the SNP and Labour: the SNP have selected a young lawyer who doesn't seem to have any political experience beyond IndyRef; Labour have selected Cllr Lesley Hinds.

    I shall be voting for Lesley in the constituency ballot, on the basis that she is the best candidate in the absence of one standing for my preferred party, the Greens.

    Posted 8 years ago #

  2. wishicouldgofaster
    Member

    I've decided to vote green too for the list vote. Totally fed up with the crap that cyclists have to put up with and want someone in who will actually do something rather than talk about it.

    Posted 8 years ago #

  3. steveo
    Member

    I couldn't bring myself to vote for any of the jokers standing for in my constituency so drew and little box and ticked none of the above.

    Voted green on the list.

    Posted 8 years ago #

  4. SRD
    Moderator

    Edinburgh Southern candidates responses to the #walkcyclevote asks:

    http://walkcyclevote.scot/candidate-info/?cons=134939

    Posted 8 years ago #

  5. Stickman
    Member

    On the bus this morning, but passing through Roseburn I saw two cyclists using the roadwork cones as a segregated cycle route!

    Parking report: three vans/one lorry on the north side. One definitely loading, others were outside Roseburn Cafe so who knows. South side - at a time where there is no stopping there were three cars and one van, and a skip lorry was in the process of parking up, facing the wrong way into traffic.

    Frank Ross will be tweeting angrily about drivers misbehaving I'm sure.

    Posted 8 years ago #

  6. acsimpson
    Member

    Don't forget that Alex Cole-Hamilton the Lib Dem candidate for Edinburgh Western is supporting the Roseburn to Leith plans. He has also answered yes to all three Walk, Cycle, Vote questions:
    http://walkcyclevote.scot/candidate-info/?cons=134940

    Toni Giugliano has too but presumably if he get's elected he has to sign a gagging order promising to agree with the party line on funding cars before communities.

    Posted 8 years ago #

  7. Stickman
    Member

    Return journey: the 3D Cakes can doesn't appear to have moved from its position 3 hours ago, and the Chores at Work van is parked in its usual spot outside the shop. Neither appeared to be loading.

    The Roseburn shops aren't concerned about customer parking. They are concerned about their own parking.

    http://youtu.be/MFaFd73phAk

    Posted 8 years ago #

  8. SRD
    Moderator

    Alex Cole-Hamilton is also on the Lib Dem list ballot for many of us.

    Posted 8 years ago #

  9. chdot
    Admin

    "

    In New York - and, actually, Camden did this too - the city planners trialled proposed new cycle routes with temporary planters, to check traffic flow, before making a final decision and then fully segregating the lines. I’ve said that for some new routes, where there are concerns, we should be prepared to use temporary planters, monitor traffic flow and then, if they do a great job as I expect them to, replace them with full segregated lanes. There were lots of concerns about traffic flow on Vauxhall bridge and of course that has now been very successful. But as with all policies in all areas, if the schemes don’t work, and local resident concerns about congestion are borne out, we should be prepared to look again.

    "

    Zak Goldsmith (Conservative)

    http://www.theguardian.com/environment/bike-blog/2016/apr/14/london-mayoral-election-qa-on-cycling-policy-with-the-main-candidates

    Posted 8 years ago #

  10. threefromleith
    Member

    I think we've positively identified one of the Evening News BTL commenters.

    I was just saying on Twitter last night that the more of Cllr Rossi's pronouncements on cycling I see, the more I'm convinced he's Apollo21Pilot from the EEN comments.

    They're both like indecisive Dave from the Fast Show, in that they'll suddenly take the same position as whoever's talking to them most loudly at the time...

    Posted 8 years ago #

  11. acsimpson
    Member

    @SRD, indeed he heads the list for Lib Dem in Lothian so even if he doesn't get in as Edinburgh Western MSP there is a good chance he will be an MSP soon.

    Posted 8 years ago #

  12. chdot
    Admin

    "

    A group of barristers and residents at the Inns of Court are to fight a Cycle Superhighway that they say will "create a strangle hold" on the Temple area of London.

    Launching a planning dispute against the City of London Corporation, the powerful group say that bringing the Superhighway into the Blackfriars area via Tudor Street, New Bridge Street and Temple Avenue will cause havoc for businesses and residents - and perhaps more importantly, block some of the lucrative deals for filming by big productions like Harry Potter in the historic surrounds.

    "

    http://road.cc/content/news/187346-powerful-barristers-fight-london-cycle-superhighway

    Posted 8 years ago #

  13. Luath
    Member

    I'm not sure if this is news but I saw on Strava that Willie Rennie supports a segregated East West cycle route. He seemed to do a fair bit of cycling between Fife and POP too.

    Posted 8 years ago #

  14. Big_Smoke
    Member

    Pete posted on the comments again, just for the record.

    "But I wonder if any of these cyclists will sign my two petitions?
    The first, is against the West Coates Cycle Track at http://www.change.org/p/city-of-edinburgh-council-petition-against-the-west-coates-cycle-track-in-favour-of-national-cycle-route-1-re-opened

    The second is in favour of congestion charging for Edinburgh at http://www.kidsnotsuits.com/congestion-charging-in-edinburgh-glasgow-parliamentary-petition

    Am I a split personality? I keep asking myselves the same question"

    What rot.

    Posted 8 years ago #

  15. Stickman
    Member

    In related news, he's made a big Facebook post about his other big campaign (NHS whistleblowing, a laudable cause). He seems proud that he parked his car on double yellow lines outside the maternity unit at the Forth Valley hospital.

    Posted 8 years ago #

  16. Stickman
    Member

    Back on topic, West Coates was down to one lane both ways this evening for roadworks. Traffic chaos was notably absent.

    Posted 8 years ago #

  17. LivM
    Member

    There was a moderately big queue eastbound mid afternoon when there was a large van loading outside Vigos. (Presumably legally, I wasn't near enough to check). The single lane isn't a problem though if the lights had a better sequence - if there was an all way pedestrian crossing then there wouldn't be a straight on only phase, (where nothing moves because it's blocked by turning traffic), and could be much more effectively dealt with.

    Posted 8 years ago #

  18. Stickman
    Member

    West Coates still down to one lane each way this morning, and traffic was still flowing freely.

    With perfect timing, a fire engine was heading for Roseburn with siren/blue lights on as I passed. It wasn't held up.

    Posted 8 years ago #

  19. chdot
    Admin

    "

    Frank Ross (@FrankRoss06)
    26/04/2016, 8:28 am
    @s4cedinburgh I am not anti cycle track at Roseburn. I dislike poor consultation and bad design which conflicts with all other users

    "

    Long discussion starts here -

    https://twitter.com/s4cedinburgh/status/724856180846288897

    Posted 8 years ago #

  20. Big_Smoke
    Member

    So anyone heard of another meeting? I was inder the impression there was to be one on tonight at 1930 but I don't know the address.

    Posted 8 years ago #

  21. HankChief
    Member

    Today's the Day that PG goes to see Sustrans...

    May still be time to give them some love for part funding the scheme via my tweet

    The next Murrayfield Community Council on May 31st is the big one. Council Officers will be playing back the consultation findings to MCC. Would be very good if interested parties attended to make sure the views of the whole community is heard.

    And immediately before the MCC meeting at 7.30pm is their AGM at 7pm, if anyone wants to go for a place on the committee to get some balance...

    Posted 8 years ago #

  22. Big_Smoke
    Member

    Oh it was last week? I thought it was tonight. Had to have a look at Peters site to find that one (don't ask why) it looks like he took it down. Huh.

    Posted 8 years ago #

  23. Claire
    Member

    I can make that MCC meeting on 31 May. It's now in diary. Can I ask where folk meet?

    Posted 8 years ago #

  24. Stickman
    Member

    Looks like Sustrans told PG to get lost...

    https://www.change.org/p/city-of-edinburgh-council-petition-against-the-west-coates-cycle-track-in-favour-of-national-cycle-route-1-re-opened/u/16373180

    His band of merry men are designing a new route apparently.

    Posted 8 years ago #

  25. wingpig
    Member

    "...INCALCULABLE HARM..."

    Posted 8 years ago #

  26. neddie
    Member

    All the cycle tracks in Edinburgh will be 50% funded by Government money through their QUANGO Sustrans, based at Haymarket Terrace, Edinburgh. They have NCR1 at their back door and want to have the new Roseburn to Haymarket one at their front door. I think they're a tad greedy for wanting one at either side of their property, but they take exception to that idea

    Starts out with a fairly nasty 'tone' of voice. And I like that QUANGO is capitalized. Because everyone knows this is A BAD THING...

    Posted 8 years ago #

  27. Stickman
    Member

    He knows how much a pedestrian crossing costs, which makes him an expert on street design apparently.

    Do you think their design will pay any attention to best practice for cycle paths? The one the council proposed doesn't so why would theirs?

    Posted 8 years ago #

  28. neddie
    Member

    And thus the Council would forge ahead and we would be left looking like a gang of NIMBYs with nothing to offer but criticism

    Yep, you got that bit right

    Posted 8 years ago #

  29. neddie
    Member

    We are going to be meeting every Tuesday at 5.15pm at Roseburn Café to hammer out the details of [our own cycle track] scheme

    Posted 8 years ago #

  30. Rosie
    Member

    "Ruth Ferguson is the Leader?

    There's a bloke on the Murrayfield CC who rubbishes the Council scheme as "poorly designed". What will he make of this back of the envelope attempt at another design?

    Posted 8 years ago #

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