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Roseburn to Leith consultation begins (and the debate continues!) CCWEL

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  1. Morningsider
    Member

    Atkins (gigantic international engineering and design consultants) drew up the plans - their logo is plastered all over the maps. Sustrans might part fund the project, but have not had anything to do with the design that I am aware of.

    It would be fairly tricky to plan a direct arterial cycle route from the west of the city that didn't get pretty close to Haymarket. Anyway, why would you avoid it (from a design point of view - nice to actually avoid the hellish traffic/tramline maelstrom). It's a major trip attractor. The whole point of these new city centre lanes is they go where people actually want to travel.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  2. calluna
    Member

    Got to cycle on some of London's newly opened* cycle superhighways today while down south for work. Couple of miles on segregated paths, along the Embankment and over Blackfriars Bridge. It was just lovely - pedalling peacefully along, no worries at all about the traffic thundering by on the roads. Loads of cyclists, all sorts of bikes, cycling properly supported as a normal means of transport rather than something we'll grudgingly let you do as long as you don't inconvenience cars.

    I'm trying not to get my hopes up about Roseburn, but times like that make it hard not to daydream. It'd be so good...

    (* mostly - still barriers up in places.)

    Posted 8 years ago #
  3. Stickman
    Member

    Of course, hardly anyone is using the new lanes....

    http://www.youtube.com/embed/QLCm2hoM9aE

    Posted 8 years ago #
  4. HankChief
    Member

    EDIT: Beaten to the same video by Stickman by 11secs

    Imagine how much space this many people would need in cars.

    Fantastic scenes

    Posted 8 years ago #
  5. Stickman
    Member

    Hah - great minds!

    Looks like it's not far off capacity already! I tried to count the oncoming cyclists and got to over 60 in 30 seconds.

    Just astonishing.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  6. Rosie
    Member

    It looks like Khan will be elected as Mayor. Goldsmith rubbish on cycling. Does anyone know about Khan?

    (I am hoping that the London super-highway will be something to emulate)

    Posted 8 years ago #
  7. calluna
    Member

    It was almost as busy as in that video when I came along that section this morning, and that was after 9am so not even full rush hour traffic. I came up off the Embankment path (where the orange barriers are on the right, near the end of the video) thinking "well, clearly the lights aren't working yet, but it's just a turn on to another cycle path so it can't be that busy" - wrong! It was truly amazing.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  8. Rosie
    Member

    Anyone know if this has been appearing on the news?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  9. Stickman
    Member

    The argument has always been that we aren't like those continentals with all their bikes.

    Turns out that we are *exactly* like them: we just didn't have a safe way to show it.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  10. gembo
    Member

    Amazing video

    Posted 8 years ago #
  11. Rosie
    Member

    In the 1930s we would have been like those foreign johnnies, cycling all over the place.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  12. neddie
    Member

    Someone needs to show that vid to the Roseburn/Haymarket business owners that are still objecting - do they still want to miss out on all those new customers?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  13. Stickman
    Member

    @eddie_h: but none of those people are in cars! How will they spend money?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  14. neddie
    Member

    Lycra doesn't have pockets, so no money obvs.

    And people working in central London aren't loaded, right?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  15. Rosie
    Member

    Now that's political will in action. And from a totally horrible ****, Johnson, and his equally horrible predecessor, Livingstone.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  16. "Someone needs to show that vid to the Roseburn/Haymarket business owners"

    But the video is shocking! Impending chaos as the track is so full of cyclists that tax-paying customers can't even park in it!

    Posted 8 years ago #
  17. Morningsider
    Member

    For the price of two miles of A9 dualling, you could pay for a comprehensive segregated cycle network for the whole of Edinburgh, built to this standard. It's just a shame we can't afford it...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  18. Chug
    Member

    What a great video.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  19. acsimpson
    Member

    That's my kind of single occupancy vehicles belching out CO2. Busier than a POP feeder ride.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  20. Stickman
    Member

    On my work BUG someone in London is complaining that the new CSHs are already full to capacity and the bike traffic lights sequences mean that it can take several changes before the full peloton makes it through.

    What a problem to have.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  21. chdot
    Admin

    "What a problem to have."

    Yep, just like real roads - build them and you get traffic jams.

    I think we should stop now.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  22. Chug
    Member

    Surely they need dualling?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  23. chdot
    Admin

    Maybe one side of Roseburn needs demolishing to have a proper dual carriageway- with pedestrians safely protected in the central reservation.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  24. Rosie
    Member

    Friends of Victoria Park "like" our Facebook page.

    Shall I invited the Friends of Roseburn Park to like it?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  25. chdot
    Admin

  26. daisydaisy
    Member

    Jeremy Balfour has been elected as an MSP for Lothian. HIs actions on the cycle path have been woeful. Suggesting it would impact on the safety of the school.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  27. wingpig
    Member

    Well, the Lothian region is a lot bigger than just Roseburn, so there should be plenty of constituents with views differing from selected axe-grinding Roseburn-based misinformants.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  28. SRD
    Moderator

    hopefully some real responsibility (and media scrutiny) will men he wises up fast and behaves more responsibly?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  29. Rosie
    Member

    I think he's less of a menace in Holyrood than in the Council. But I'm thinking (very) locally, not nationally, let alone globally!

    Posted 8 years ago #
  30. Stickman
    Member

    So how long before a council by-election then?

    Posted 8 years ago #

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