CityCyclingEdinburgh was launched on the 27th of October 2009 as "an experiment".
IT’S TRUE!
CCE is 14years old!
Well done to ALL posters
It soon became useful and entertaining. There are regular posters, people who add useful info occasionally and plenty more who drop by to watch. That's fine. If you want to add news/comments it's easy to register and become a member.
RULES No personal insults. No swearing.
The Roseburn Cycle Route website is still attracting a lot of interest so that you for spreading the word. Still time to send it & your thoughts to your councillors.
Reminder that the Murrayfield Community Council meeting is at 7.30pm on Tuesday at the upper Church Hall on Ormidale Terrace.
Pete now seems to be asking for the SNP group to put a motion to the Transport & Environment Committee for the council to cost out his plans. The cost is irrelevant as it won't be effective...
I'm slightly concerned by his comment that he understands the revised Council plan may follow Paul Edie's suggestion. Hopefully he's wrong on that.
"Paul Edie's suggestion"
Remind me (please).
@chdot Through the alley behind Tesco's. A daft suggestion.
OK, ta.
I assumed it was 'grander' than that!
& a narrower lane than proposed on the south side of the road, crossing over to get to Magdala Cres.
Grand...
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Ian Maxwell, of cycling campaign group Spokes, said: “What they are proposing might be a useful addition to Edinburgh’s off-road network, but it goes no way to providing the direct, on-street cycling facility that will encourage more people to ride bikes and provide better facilities for them. Edinburgh is at a crucial decision point. We have got good off-road routes, but we need main road provision. We need to be radical and bold.”
A drop-in event detailing the alternative vision will take place at the Roseburn Cafe on Roseburn Terrace tomorrow from 5pm to 9pm.
It comes as residents who support the current cycleway plans launched a community website – roseburncycleroute.org.uk – setting out the arguments in favour.
Speaking on behalf of the supporters, local Henry Whaley said: “We’ve been frustrated by the misinformation and unsubstantiated claims regarding the proposals and decided we had to move it on to an evidence-based discussion.”
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I like the subtle use of a consultation event that PG seems to want folk to believe the council didn't invite anyone too.
Only 4 comments - all supportive!!!
Careful you'll jinx it!
Already has....
"Already has...."
Nah, just someone adding comedic confusion -
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From my reading of the report, the Roseburn people merely want to have a discussion about the best solution for everybody.
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"The answer to complaints is usually, "well where were you at the discussion stage"."
Surely a legitimate response?
"Here we have stakeholders willing to draw up alternative plans, and have a discussion about it. That seems to have wrong footed a lot of people."
Not in the slightest, more we know exactly what direction it is coming from due to the shouty Mr PG.
The problem is (and the article perpetuates this to an extent because the key info is at the end, which the green inkers won't read to) it's once again distilled into 'residents vs cyclists'. Not 'some residents, lead with misinformation and some weird personal grudge vs those who are keen on active travel, not just cycling, a large number of whom are local residents').
"Not in the slightest"
Quite.
Actually galvanised people to do some work to discover the "facts" (as well as the 'facts').
Ok 'we' are biased 'we' just want the best for 'us'.
Except that -
We as people who walk/cycle/(drive too) want what is best for the majority who don't just 'drive everywhere' - and expect to be able to without hindrance (which actually, mostly, comes from people in other motor vehicles).
In addition many of the people who drive (for many reasons), already know they want it to be easier/more pleasant to walk/cycle. Others who don't realise might (eventually) find they benefit too.
"the key info is at the end, which the green inkers won't read to"
From latest comment -
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Any narrowing of Roseburn Terrace is just madness. Period. You don't even need to read the rest of the article.
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Not seen this before -
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Must be to deal with the excitable Mr/s angries.
(I wasn't trying to comment!)
Hey guys, I've had a go posting the site to facebook and it's not attracting any attention at all.
Am I doing this wrong?
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We can't stick with increasing congestion and pollution and turn away from active travel just to please a NIMBY movement and people stuck in the car-is-best-for-cities mindset. Very good to see the reasonable arguments and commitment to evidence in these discussions.
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Cyclists should not have a say at all until they start to contribute to the cost of maintaining the roads.
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Ok, well most do. Comment continues -
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No matter where the cycle route goes the cyclist will just pick the closest pavement and use that if it is more direct.
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So you're in favour of the CEC plan then?...
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Car drivers should not have a say at all until they start to contribute anything remotely like the costs they impose on the rest of society from their selfish and deadly use of public space.
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That's just SO unbalanced!
Most of the comments are pro and one guy was talked around to saying "Fair enough."
Really, really useful having that website.
Something seems suspicious.
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If you want evidence of the impact of vain councillors tinkering with traffic systems and the subsequent impact on the livelihood of retailers, take a look at Gorgie Road for instance.
The heart of an area of a community which previous to the arbitrary introduction of Bus Lanes, offered an abundance of fresh food and service retailers. Butchers, Fishmongers, Fruit & Veg Shops etc.
As an example, I think I am correct when I now count one Fishmonger, and a plethora of fast food outlets and charity shops.
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Hmmm nothing to do with the full set of supermarkets in the general area?
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This is not bloody holland flat everywhere .more idiots on bikes on busy roads no bike tests not tax no mot no insurance no saftey gear no road savey no brains no common sense =more accidents
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Well that covers most things.
Princes Street to The Gyle all pretty flat really!
Who is going along to MCC tonight? I'm interested to hear the council update but not sure I can face sitting through the rest of the meeting on such a glorious evening.
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If people are too afraid to cycle in Edinburgh, perhaps they shouldn't be cycling in Edinburgh until they have the confidence to cycle in the city centre. There are dozens upon dozens of safe, but sadly not iconic, routes they they can use.
For more experienced cyclists they can use the existing bus lanes/greenways.
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I don't think Rugal does irony.
@Stickman - I'm going and yes, sad on such a lovely evening.
@rosie - ok, I'll come along.
Upper hall. Down the alley between church & hall then inside & up the stairs.
Pete has a projector...
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