CityCyclingEdinburgh was launched on the 27th of October 2009 as "an experiment".
IT’S TRUE!
CCE is 15years old!
Well done to ALL posters
It soon became useful and entertaining. There are regular posters, people who add useful info occasionally and plenty more who drop by to watch. That's fine. If you want to add news/comments it's easy to register and become a member.
RULES No personal insults. No swearing.
"...that the traffic moddlling had been discredited for the last thirty years..."
I thought that was something we agreed on. Traffic modelling for most of the last 5 decades and more has had far to high a weighting for private car usage. Rather than realising the traffic comes when you build it the modelling has assume we need to build it because the traffic is coming.
@Big_Smoke had this encounter at the recent meeting:
One Hotel owner wanted to know what he was going to do with deliveries of linen and so on as apparently his current suppliers can't operated at the proposed hours.
I wonder if that was the owner of the hotel that had a delivery van stopped in the greenway this morning, parked on the zig-zags of a pedestrian crossing?
How would these businesses cope if there was proper traffic enforcement?
How would they cope if one of their nearest & dearest was one of 200 Edinburghers dying prematurely from air pollution each & every year or one of the 250 Edinburghers dying prematurely each & every year from inactivity related illnesses? Or one of the thousands more who's quality of life are impacted?
#biggerpicture
Totally agree with acsimpson.
The traffic models need to be adjusted to reduce the volume of private car usage by designing infrastructure that limits it, rather than attempting to accommodate it.
9am tomorrow and Humza will be announcing the winner of the Community Links Plus funding.
Fingers crossed for Roseburn Leith Walk.
I've finally calmed down enough from last Tuesday's meeting to blog about it.
https://hankchiefblog.wordpress.com/2016/08/12/conviction-needed/
It is quite long - it was hard not to include the whole Roseburn website .
Any feedback, comments etc most welcome. I won't publish it wider until I get some of your thoughts.
If you can't face 1,200 of my words, then PoP did an excellent summary of why it's important earlier in the year which still stands.
http://pedalonparliament.org/supporting-edinburghs-east-west-cycle-route-five-reasons-in-five-words/
P.s. have you contacted you councillor yet?
Excellent article - exactly what is needed in the face of the hysterical opposition. Every member of the Transport Committee should read it.
(Minor typo - "ommission" rather that "admission" in the bit about consultation fraud)
Emailed my local councillor, Bill Henderson & received a polite but fairly non committal response. Will email again nearer the 30th.
Thanks Stickman.
Osmond Wells - welcome and thanks for emailing. I wouldn't be put off by a non - committal response especially from those on the Transport Committee as they haven't actually recieved a report from Council Officers on the scheme for consideration yet, so it would be inappropriate for them to opine definitively until they have read exactly what is being put forward and the evidence for the Council officer's recommendation.
Setting out the impact you as a resident in personal terms all helps them come to the right decision.
Couple more minor typos, HankChief:
"That’s over 2o0 in Edinburgh, which has the worse polluted street in Scotland"
And a couple more:
"where 5o% of journeys to work"
"The more people see others riding a bike the more likely they are try it themselves."
"it's benefits" - its is the possessive.
Will finish reading later.
Good blog Hankchief.
I know there's a danger of making the blog too long, but maybe you could show the success of the London route by embedding this video:
So, no sustrans money. What happens now?
Thanks for the feedback. I've updated.
Feel free to pass it on to anyone interested.
I am obviously pleased for Glasgow, but that's a very good question regarding funding. There are three other good projects that are left hanging, too.
CEC may attempt to get funding from elsewhere (dunno what other ScotGov funds are kicking about) or foot the entire bill. Or implement in phases. Or water it down. Or just park the whole thing. I really hope they don't do the latter...
Well, Nick Cook has confirmed he supports the "principle" of the route; whether he'll actually go ahead and vote for it (against his group leader's wishes) is the real test. I expect he'll vote against it.
Option A or B??
"Option A or B?"
I fear it is "I support the principle but in practice it is too hard, so neither"
Vaguely relevant - Spokes is asking Sturgeon for some of that £100 million Brexit cash to be spent on cycling infrastructure:-
http://www.spokes.org.uk/2016/08/quick-chance-for-brexit-cash/
Some more typos, HankChief:
"We haven’t been sent any that show cycle [routes] harming local businesses and couldn’t find any."
"Edinburgh is tackling the same issues as other cities and there are other cities that are colder, wetter, hillier and [with/have] narrower streets than Edinburgh"
"The revised plans still has peak and off-peak loading"
"which were told could result in them ‘doing their hip in and being the end of them’."
"These rational arguments doesn’t seem to be what those opposed want"
"won’t go down well with those wanting throughput of cars are top priority."
"take a compromise option the suits nobody"
"put in high quality segregated cycle route which are [now] reaping the rewards."
"My recommendation to our councillors is to study the evidence and recommendations from the cycling officers and build Option A" - First "and" should be a comma. Also an extra space before "build"
Thanks for writing the blog, sorry if I'm being pernickety.
Thanks again Frenchy. I have tweak and rewritten bits so I think I've got them all. It was never going to be perfect writing it in the small hours.
Now to get people to read it and act differently as a result...
https://hankchiefblog.wordpress.com/2016/08/12/conviction-needed/
Wrote to my council or Ricky Henderson on back of this, but no reply yet.
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Matthew MacDonald, Community Links PLUS manager at Sustrans Scotland, said: “The South City Way will improve travel choices and accessibility for residents and visitors.
“Simultaneously, it will reduce congestion, improve air quality, enable easier use of public transport, and create places where people want to socialise, shop, and linger in.”
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http://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/glasgow-to-get-6-5m-copenhagen-style-cycle-route-1-4201592
I see the tram might get extended with UK city deal cash. Could it pay for this project too?
Not so much "could" as should!
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Peter Gregson is a local campaigner on health and transport issues
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Enough about him - have you all written to your councillors?
@hankchief, I wrote to my man on reading your blog but alas he has not replied. (Yet). The last time I wrote to him about this he was lukewarm as no direct interest in transport
Gembo - you have three or four councillors, have you written to the others?
Of my councillors:
Paul Eadie hasn't been heard of since he announced he was stepping down at the next election. Think he's happy to run out the clock and avoid any further hassle.
Jeremy Balfour has been opposed since day 1 and is likely to tell his junior Conservative Transport Spokesman colleague to vote against it. Although as a list MSP for Edinburgh he has a responsibility to think about Edinburgh as a whole, so congestion/pollution/health etc
Interesting one is Frank Ross. I think he's had quite a change in view over the last six months. I think the changes made following the consultation have addressed some of his concerns and he may not be against it any longer. I spoke to him briefly after the recent outrage session, and he seemed to be quite positive and constructive.
I'll write to them all again this weekend.
@frenchy, one has already been written to by another forumite (I like the guy and had hoped just to noble him in the street, he likes the cinema we run in said ward). No data on the Rusty Tory.
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