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Roseburn to Leith consultation begins (and the debate continues!) CCWEL

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  1. gembo
    Member

    Labour group all in favour of Option A. Need to target Tories and SNP

    Posted 8 years ago #
  2. Stickman
    Member

    @gembo: 6 Labour + 2 Green; need 1 more - hopefully Adam McVey in favour?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  3. daisydaisy
    Member

    The wee one's keen to join in, so we'll do the school run by tandem, via Charlotte sq on Monday.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  4. chdot
    Admin

    Presume the idea is to symbolically meet at Bute House?

    If so, can it be added here -

    https://m.facebook.com/events/176013649488139/

    Posted 8 years ago #
  5. algo
    Member

    Thanks chdot - now edited and added

    Posted 8 years ago #
  6. Rob
    Member

    "Once into Grosvenor Crescent, tricky manoeuvre to cross traffic coming along Lansdowne Crescent to stay on Grosvenor,
    Similar tricky manoeuvre exiting Grosvenor Crescent with 2-way traffic on Lansdowne,"

    Personally, I'd use Lansdowne and avoid these manoeuvres. Since Grosvenor isn't the current route, you don't really need to demonstrate the issues getting on/off it.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  7. Stickman
    Member

    Not sure the police will like an unannounced gathering outside there. I'd stick with meeting at West Register House.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  8. chdot
    Admin

    Ok!

    FB just says C. Sq.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  9. chdot
    Admin

    "

    That’s not how many cyclists see it – and Mark Ames, of consultancy Strategic Cities, says Sydney is going against the flow of other world cities. “Making your city efficient should be above party politics, cycling is not really a right versus left thing, yet here in Sydney it is kind of seen as being a lefty, hippie, latte-sipping city thing, not something important,” he says.

    "

    https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016/aug/24/sydney-australia-war-cyclists-fines

    Posted 8 years ago #
  10. algo
    Member

    @erob - Grosvenor is the proposed route which is why we'll be going that way - unless concensus is otherwise.

    @chdot - sorry I just copied "North end of Charlotte Square" from Hankchief's blog. I've edited the description now but very tricky as I'm on mobile and very busy...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  11. Harts Cyclery
    Member

    I'll be there, probably with my 9 month old on a long diversion to her Granny's!

    Recommend West Register House. Security issues with Bute House and WRH is were I always used to sit at the West End as a courier :-)

    Re Adam McVey, fairly certain he'll be supporting Option A, so we only need to convince one more? Or is that a majority already?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  12. Stickman
    Member

    17 on the committee so should be....but need this to be as clear a vote in favour as possible!

    Posted 8 years ago #
  13. Stickman
    Member

    From Andrew Burns:

    really sorry; but just not possible for me to make it along next Monday -hope it goes well.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  14. acsimpson
    Member

    I'll be there, although without any passengers. I'll send the facebook invite out to some more who might be interested too.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  15. HankChief
    Member

    Lots of papers released by CEC

    http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/downloads/download/1067/roseburn_to_leith_walk_cycle_route

    No time to read them though...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  16. Stickman
    Member

    Quick skim of the consultation on the revised plans: all the businesses support Option B as it will maintain their illegal parking customer loading.

    Quick skim of traffic modelling suggests about an extra minute on journeys on A8; biggest increase would be because the Roseburn Gardens rat-run is closed off. Little impact forecast on public transport.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  17. algo
    Member

    Have now updated event to say West Register House - thanks to Stickman and Hart's Cutlery for the suggestion

    Posted 8 years ago #
  18. Harts Cyclery
    Member

    I see Living Streets are really helping the active travel cohort again...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  19. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    I see @algo has brilliantly renamed Harts Cyclery to Hart's Cutlery. I move that we make this change official.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  20. Harts Cyclery
    Member

    Lol. You don't want to see the cutlery in here! #biohazard

    Posted 8 years ago #
  21. algo
    Member

    @Hart's Cattery - my apologies - technical error

    Posted 8 years ago #
  22. Harts Cyclery
    Member

    Gee, thanks, LS...

    Living Streets is pleased that both options address concerns over
    conflicts a floating bus stop on Roseburn Terrace would have created
    between pedestrian and cyclists.
     However, Living Streets say 16 other concerns raised have not been
    addressed. This includes the narrow footway on Roseburn Terrace,
    elimination of the eastbound bus lane from Roseburn to Coates
    Gardens and insufficient additional Zebra type crossings.*
     Living Streets also commented that they completely reject the plan for a
    cycle route along Princes Street, which they believe, would create
    unmanageable conflicts between cyclists and pedestrians.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  23. Harts Cyclery
    Member

    Apparently no unmanageable conflicts between buses and taxis and pedestrians on Princes Street...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  24. biketrain
    Member

    Interesting that the report mentions the two local petitions. One, in support, organised by 'Henry Whaley, a member of spokes'. No mention of who organised the other local petition.

    Was the other local opposing petition organised by Peter Gregson, who is a member of spokes?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  25. Rob
    Member

    "Apparently no unmanageable conflicts between buses and taxis and pedestrians on Princes Street... "

    Nor with the trams, complete with floating tram stops.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  26. Stickman
    Member

    The "You Said, We Did" bit does nicely skewer the "Vision"

    Posted 8 years ago #
  27. Stickman
    Member

    Hart's Celery?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  28. Stickman
    Member

    Rather nicely, the traffic modelling suggests a worst-case of a 1 minute increase on A8 traffic.

    One of PG's objections was that the direct route would only save a minute for cyclists. So he can't really complain if there is only a one-minute delay for drivers surely?

    Posted 8 years ago #
  29. HankChief
    Member

    Algo - the date/time of the FB event has changed to Sunday night!

    Posted 8 years ago #
  30. algo
    Member

    @HankChief - I thought it would be more romantic at night.

    apologies - changed now - not sure how that happened

    Posted 8 years ago #

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