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Christmas tree seller blocking bike path

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  1. weezee
    Member

    How does one go about reporting something like this? It's on Mayfield Road. Though it's not completely blocking the path, you still need to pull out into traffic to avoid it.

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    I approached one of the sellers but when I asked if they were going to move them he said "No" and just walked away.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  2. Stickman
    Member

    Think this happened last year as well.

    What would happen if people just moved them out of the way?

    Posted 9 years ago #
  3. The Boy
    Member

    They'd be moved back immediately.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  4. SRD
    Moderator

    "Think this happened last year as well."

    And the year before....but admin redacted the last thread....

    Tweet the relevant team. South team?

    Just please don't buy trees form them. We got ours from Bethany last year and it was excellent. They were very friendly and highly amused when I collected mine on bike. The actual people you collect from are all volunteers.

    http://www.caringchristmastrees.com/edinburgh/

    Posted 9 years ago #
  5. SRD
    Moderator

    "What would happen if people just moved them out of the way?"

    They'd end up blocking pedestrians on the pavement...

    Posted 9 years ago #
  6. Arellcat
    Moderator

    I did Bethany Christmas trees for several years before going for a half-decent artificial tree.

    I don't remember exactly when it was, but a few years back I cycled past the place in weezee's photos. They had a real actual reindeer there. It looked terribly sad at its miserable lot and I vowed never to buy a Christmas tree from anywhere that had brought animals onsite just for the seasonality of it all and for humans to coo at.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  7. chdot
    Admin

    ".but admin redacted the last thread...."

    Really?

    What had you said??

    Posted 9 years ago #
  8. weezee
    Member

    There's no chance they'd get my custom for a growing list of reasons now (thanks for the latest Arellcat). We decided to go for an artifical tree several years ago having weighed up the environmental pros and cons. Though I have a yen to collect a real tree in the cargo bike at some year. Anyone need a delivery from Bethany..?

    It just beggars belief that there is no obvious recourse to complain about something like this. I knew already that these lanes are a joke for safety and enforcement, but still, grrr.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  9. Roibeard
    Member

    @chdot - there may have been some suggestion of planned illegality in the business arrangements of the owner, possibly of an organised sort...

    Robert
    (expecting to have this post removed!)

    Posted 9 years ago #
  10. chdot
    Admin

    Ah, you mean allegations about a local business 'empire'?

    I vaguely recall...

    Posted 9 years ago #
  11. acsimpson
    Member

    Was that the one where they were helping local businesses avoid bad thing happening by selling their own assurance product?

    Posted 9 years ago #
  12. gembo
    Member

    I can provide details at PY on 18th and recount my Christmas tree wholesale tale to any interested party. Please look interested

    Posted 9 years ago #
  13. Nelly
    Member

    The chap who also owns the foam centre?
    And parks his 4x4 wherever he wants on account of his blue badge?

    Avoid.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  14. gembo
    Member

    Big fedora, pinstripe suit, spats?

    Posted 9 years ago #
  15. crowriver
    Member

    A distant relative of the Gambino family, no doubt.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  16. Cyclingmollie
    Member

    I would hit them where it hurts most. Leave a note saying you were going to buy a tree from them but decided not to because of the way they block the cycle lane.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  17. chdot
    Admin

    Gembino?

    Posted 9 years ago #
  18. crowriver
    Member

    Gembino and the reign of Chdotti.

    Posted 9 years ago #
  19. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Anyone got an old banger they don't mind getting a few dents on? Just drive down the road and accidentally have the car too close to the curb...

    Posted 9 years ago #
  20. The Boy
    Member

    And then claim against the vendor's insurance...?

    Posted 9 years ago #
  21. Tulyar
    Member

    Well AFAIK its section 129.2 Roads Scotland Act 1984 (obstruction of traffic) and possibly also 129.6 blocking a cycle route. The English (s.137 Highways Act 1980 - split away from the original s.72 HA 1835) equivalent is a level 3 tariff which has a maximum fine of £1000.

    Unlike driving on the footway there is no in flagrante delicto requirement so a photograph (or repeated daily pictures) should emphasise the case and demand action from Police Scotland.

    Then again if there is one of those fine heavy duty bakfiets (the sort for carrying a piano) around and a suitably decent load I'd fancy piloting it along the road with as much of the bakfiets as possible in the cycle lane (it would probably just about reach the rear wheel...)

    Although the low geared fixed wheel versions I've ridden seem reasonably good at stopping I'm told that the braking is not actually that good with a load on.....

    Posted 9 years ago #
  22. SRD
    Moderator

    Getting to be that time of the year again. Please don't buy trees from the characters mentioned up thread.

    Loads of other options, including http://www.caringchristmastrees.com/edinburgh/ where you can support a local charity as well.

    Re gembo's original, now deleted, allegations. I heard a new equally alarming story yesterday...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  23. Frenchy
    Member

    Noticed yesterday that they were getting the site ready again, and made a mental note to keep an eye out for the bike lane obstructions when I'm passing. Steve Burgess got the Local Roads Inspector on to them last year, and that seemed to fix the problem. No doubt they'll chance their luck again though.

    Re gembo's original, now deleted, allegations. I heard a new equally alarming story yesterday...

    You can't say things like that and not follow up...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  24. SRD
    Moderator

    Let's just say that the fact that none of the nearby newsagents sell wee potted trees is not a coincidence....

    Full story available at Christmas Special PY.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  25. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    The advisory cycle lane in question is not currently obstructed.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  26. gembo
    Member

    Talk of PY Dec 16th, I have some wrong brake pads and a protective Lycra top and shorts for 12-13yr old (unworn) for prezzies. You do not need to bring prezzies.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  27. chdot
    Admin

    "Talk of PY Dec 16th"

    Talk is cheap.

    New thread required.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  28. unhurt
    Member

    How can we be sure this isn't just a way of luring more people to the upcoming PY??

    Posted 8 years ago #
  29. unhurt
    Member

    Is there a PY Dec 16 thread? My search isn't finding it...

    Posted 8 years ago #
  30. chdot
    Admin

    "My search isn't finding it..."

    Yeah, I had that problem.

    Was in non standard format.

    (And in the wrong category.)

    Now modified.

    Posted 8 years ago #

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