This video is rather excellent. Chap dressed as a "East Ayrshire Cooncil Worker" filling pot holes with a temporary solution - coco-pops and milk. Sorry for the source. I couldn't find another or the original.
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THE man in charge of fixing Edinburgh’s potholed roads says the city is “getting better” at dealing with the problems caused by wear and tear on our busy streets.
Despite widespread complaints about the vast number of holes in the roads, the city’s “pothole tsar” Gareth Barwell insists progress is being made in handling problems that are on the rise across the whole country. Where the Capital needs to improve, he says, is “transparency and openness” over the closure of certain roads and informing locals over a timeframe for their repair, both areas he was hoping to improve as the council embarks on its latest stage of road improvements.
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Gareth Barwell come ride with any of us and see the potholes - is this guy living in the real world--- perhaps the road from his house to his work is pothole free coincidentaly
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I reported a busted stank near Coatbridge using the Fill that Hole app. It had been broken for more than 6 months. They mended it within a week of me reporting it.
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Who knew there was poetry in potholes?
Busted stank in Cumbernauld
Busted stank in coatbrig tooPosted 6 years ago # -
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New figures show over the last five years the local authority has paid out £65,966 to cyclists and £111,054 to motorists as compensation for pothole related incidents.
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Only twice as much to motorists? Would have expected many more to claim and probably have higher repair costs per incident.
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Initially surprised too. Could be that when cyclists hit a pothole, they are more likely to know about it?
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I have nice deep rims on my commuting bike. When a pothole broke one, I struggled to get a single identical wheel. The
banditscouncil refused point blank to pay for a new pair, only the broken one (plus tyre & tube.) My bill was about £150 which TBF, once on the case they paid quickly.I'd guess a car's alloys are rarely damaged beyond repair, and repairing a single alloy would come in under £150?
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Could it be the personal injury payment for cyclists as a cyclist is more likely to have an accident when hitting a pot hole.
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Ed1 that's what the first article says. £11k Vs £900.
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No more potholes: cities that can repair themselves
https://www.ft.com/content/9870fa7a-314d-11e8-b5bf-23cb17fd1498
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I keep forgetting how poor pedestrian provision is in Edinburgh.
Tried to keep a large parcel dry on the way to the Post Office there and of course no quarter from the vehicles banging through the flooded pot-holes spirking foul water everywhere.
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I can confirm after riding across Fife and back last weekend that the roads there have got dramatically worse in the last year. Potholes that aren't just numerous but shockingly deep and sharp edged, the sort that's very likely to bring you down if you hit them, and surrounded by attending gravel.
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I've reported Inverkeithing High St to Fill that Hole- the Railway bridge strengthening works have left the lower half of the street in a shocking state- a missing drain cover in the middle of a pothole leaving a sharp edged hole at least 6" deep. Can't believe Scotrail haven't been forced to make good the damage they have done.
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“Cycling event cancelled due to potholes”
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The drain cover in Hope St has been replaced.
I do think Fill that hole works pretty well. But more needs to be done to make Hope Street safe for cyclists.
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I don't know how folk keep un-suspended bikes in one piece in Edinburgh. I'm on 40mm tyres, 60mm travel on the forks and a suspended seatpost and still there's a fair amount of crash bang wallop.
I'd reckon the causes are;
1) The policy of deliberately degrading the public realm sometimes called 'austerity'.
2) The impunity with which utility companies regularly butcher the road surface.
3) The prevalence of unnecessarily heavy goods vehicles in town.
4) The weather.Posted 6 years ago # -
There's a hole in Belford Road right where you'd be taking primary having taken the fast downhill left hander that could destroy a racing bike.
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@IWRATS When I briefly tried fixed sprockets on my singlespeed I quickly discovered exactly how often I would try to briefly keep the crank horizontal to unweight myself or bunnyhop over uneven sections.
On the plus side, any potential unfastened components or shoddy brackets quickly identify themselves by their frequent rattling and/or disintegration.
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“I'd reckon the causes are “
Yes
5) CEC’s roads seldom resurfaced and then not usually more than a shallow surface scrape as preparation.
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Also "the causes":
- Heavier cars and pothole damage goes with the 4th power of axle weight, so a (increasingly common) 2.5 tonne 4x4 does 16 times the damage of an older 1.25 tonne family car.
- More and more traffic.
- More rat-running thanks to Waze and Google navigation.
- Council overwhelmed by the damage caused by all of the above.
If I were Mayor, I'd filter all the side streets as a matter of priority to prevent through-traffic further damaging them. Then focus on filling the potholes on the bus routes (as buses do a lot of damage).
Eventually the situation would stabilise, with side-streets only requiring infrequent maintenance, and bus routes receiving a continual rolling-programme of repairs.
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In regards to 5) the resurfacing of South Clerk street does not seem to involve delving more than a few centimetres into the ground.
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@chdot, IWRATS
Fear of litigation will get the council to apply some sort of fix, but as you say it seems to be the "how little can I get away with?" approach.
e.g. Potholes flagged on Fill that Hole and "fixed" on Cammo walk in the Autumn are already breaking up again. I was glad not to have to deal with them in the pitch black of winter, but is it too much to ask for to plan in more long-lasting fixes?
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“but is it too much to ask for to plan in more long-lasting fixes?”
Apparently.
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but is it too much to ask for to plan in more long-lasting fixes?
Prevention would be even better. Make utilities keep doing repair work until it's right and ban HGVs from fragile streets.
And all of @neddie's stuff. The whole grim pantomime of cold-set tar patted into a hole until it forms a ski-jump under the pounding wheels....
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