I've lived here for 15 years but I didn't realise my street still has setts, until the potholes recently started to reveal them. The setts are underneath 5 or 6 inches of tarmac, just to give you an idea of the current problem...
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Posted 6 years ago #
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"1) The policy of deliberately degrading the public realm sometimes called 'austerity'."
Austerity or not their seems to be plenty money available for private motor transport corridors (roads). That's why I more usually call it the trunk road building fund. If they split the road building cash more equitably it would go a long way towards repairing the existing roads.
Posted 6 years ago # -
^^^ Yes
Halt all trunk road construction now.
Fix what we've got.
Posted 6 years ago # -
Starting from the Bridges I rode out Gilmerton way over the weekend. I gave up trying to memorise where all the potentially bike-destroying/rider-injuring potholes were by the time I got to Kingston Avenue. Far too many to count. You need to leave a good distance between you and the car in front to allow for evasive action.
This year's extended and cold winter, with snow lying for several days and attendant freeze-thaw, has really found out the Council's leave-it-as-long-as-possible strategy. There's barely a road in town that doesn't need fixed now.
Posted 6 years ago # -
i spent a week in D&G before i my move to ilkley and they are terrible - i used to live there for 3 years and they were not as bad as that, not only the potholes and bad repairs, but also the cheap "chip" cover they put over the roads that make them a rough ride (even on 25c@90psi) - it put me off riding there to be honest!
my commute to leeds is pretty good pothole wise, but they are mainly main A roads with onroad cycle path markings.
i feel the majority of issues come from a previous repair, upon repair. there should be some accountability to the (sub contracted) companies who do these repairs to a substandard
Posted 6 years ago # -
To be fair to D&G council (not a phrase I use often), we do have an awful lot of road per head of population - it's the downside of the marvellous network of single track roads that make cycling (for me) so pleasant. I agree about the chip surface dressing though, that's a real nightmare
Every so often you will turn down some tiny road that joins 3 farms or something and come across a half-mile stretch of beautifully smooth tarmac in the middle of nowhere. No idea how they decide which roads to patch and which to give the full treatment to ...
Posted 6 years ago # -
sally - all should be revealed in the wonderfully turgid Dumfries and Galloway Road Asset Management Plan:
http://egenda.dumgal.gov.uk/aksdumgal/images/att7177.pdf
Read it and sleep.
Posted 6 years ago # -
Thanks. When I've finished Piketty's Capital (my current sleep aid) I may put it to use
Posted 6 years ago # -
@rider73: the majority of issues come from a previous repair
Here in East Lothian the potholes have been highlighted with yellow spray-paint. They certainly look to me like previous repairs that have broken down. However it's a Council squad repairing them - I saw them on Wednesday - so I don't think there's any attempt to chase up the utility companies at all.
@rider73 I hope you are enjoying Ilkley - looking at the map there seems a lot to explore in the area including some fearsome hills.
Posted 6 years ago # -
Looks like Magdala Crescent is getting some temporary patching. The surface there and onEglinton Crescent has been completely destroyed by all the diverted buses.
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Posted 6 years ago #
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Nothing fills a newspaper’s postbag like potholes, as I’ve been told on more than one occasion by successive editors. Pile up a stack of local newspapers on any given day from across the country – indeed the world – and it will be peppered with as many stories about potholes as west Edinburgh’s Dundee Street is by the real thing.
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https://www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/paris-gourtsoyannis-how-potholes-helped-cause-brexit-1-4811803
Posted 5 years ago # -
Hit a pothole on West Mains Road tonight and now have a knackered rim.
Considering going down the rabbit hole of trying to claim the cost of a wheel back from the council.
Posted 5 years ago # -
@frenchy - people have been successful apparently but I don't know their names
Posted 5 years ago # -
Good to know. Worth a shot, anyway.
Posted 5 years ago # -
Frenchy, that sucks. Try reporting on fill that hole, stating the damage caused. Should get it fixed, and if they don't, it is evident that they are negligent.
Posted 5 years ago # -
Having looked at camera footage, it looks like it was actually a lump of tar sticking out of the road, rather than a pothole. I hope that makes it harder to claim they weren't negligent, although it maybe wasn't the council who put it there.
Posted 5 years ago # -
“although it maybe wasn't the council who put it there.”
If not, will have been done for the Council.
Sure it wasn’t a lump out of a new pothole?
Posted 5 years ago # -
By "lump", I mean six foot long, two feet wide and protruding an inch above the road surface. Looks to have been an attempt to fix a pothole. I'll take photos in daylight tomorrow.
Posted 5 years ago # -
Ah.
Posted 5 years ago # -
@Frenchy I saw the 4" deep potholes right next to the bus stop on Liberton Road Here (Under the bus) have been "filled" by what looks like half a tonne of tar tipped into the road. Presumably the same folk that filled your hole (oo-er).
Also a huge 6 foot long slab of tar protruding significantly over the road. I managed to go around it, being aware of the murder holes from previous brown-trousers moments.
EDIT: Since I still have tonight's footage:
(And the full size, since the forum layout doesn't like it: https://www.derpymud.com/images/CCE_Pothole_29_11_2018.jpg )
EDIT #2: And since I have nothing better to do with my CPU cycles:
Tonight:
Yesterday:Posted 5 years ago # -
I'm convinced there's something wrong below the surface at that bus stop, it has pothole turnover far higher than anywhere else I've seen.
Posted 5 years ago # -
There are some tarmac mini-alps on the eastbound Glasgow Road which very nearly took my front wheel out in the dark last week. Must try and get them on camera in daylight to report them.
Posted 5 years ago # -
mini-alps - malps?
Posted 5 years ago # -
Conservative leader, Iain Whyte said "Never mind spending millions on the tram completion project, we warned in February that ring-fencing ten per cent of the roads budget for cycling was ridiculous when Edinburgh’s roads were increasingly unfit for any users and that cyclists would benefit from properly-funded maintenance too."
What is Cllr Whyte's plan to reduce the amount of damage done to the roads, then?
At least this time he hasn't claimed (or the EEN hasn't included it, at least), that potholes are the biggest risk to cyclists.
Posted 5 years ago # -
What is Cllr Whyte's plan to reduce the amount of damage done to the roads, then? - magical thinking.
Posted 5 years ago # -
Perhaps someone should point him to the recent DoT report recommending councils spend 15% of transport budget on cycling.
Posted 5 years ago # -
Saw 5 or 6 large deep potholes on my way home last night, none of which I'd noticed before. Perhaps the frost was the final straw for them?
Posted 5 years ago # -
Most of those large deep potholes were repaired when I came home today. This makes me think they were prepared for filling yesterday, and then actually filled in today.
Which would mean that the council knowingly left incredibly dangerous potholes in the bike lanes overnight...
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