CityCyclingEdinburgh was launched on the 27th of October 2009 as "an experiment".
IT’S TRUE!
CCE is 15years old!
Well done to ALL posters
It soon became useful and entertaining. There are regular posters, people who add useful info occasionally and plenty more who drop by to watch. That's fine. If you want to add news/comments it's easy to register and become a member.
RULES No personal insults. No swearing.
Trouble with ridacards and the like is that they are generally priced to be of benefit to people commuting five days a week.
But more and more people are working flexibably now, perhaps working from home one or two days a week. Indeed many offices mandate that you must WFH sometimes. So for these people a ridacard is not worthwhile.
Ironically I will now be able to start using contactless exclusively in the staff canteen. I used to pay cash sometimes to keep the bus money supply topped up.
A bus driver coming off a long shift, so tired that he was possibly unable to make sufficient observations before crossing a tram track...
Is anyone else thinking, if they apply this level of safety to trams, why not to buses as well? Why are bus drivers working such long hours they are leaving the buses completely shattered and potentially unable to make proper decisions leading to life-threatening situations?
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-49111477
“
"In essence, the report suggests that in the many millions of public funds lavished on the Edinburgh's tram project, little attention was paid to simple, industry standard, safety measures.
“
Shocking really.
“
"The family welcome the recommendations set out within the RAIB's report and hope that Edinburgh trams follow up on the necessary safety measures to ensure that such tragic accidents are prevented in the future."
“hope” HOPE!
They have the option of doing nothing??
@neddie " possibly due to his working patterns and the quality of his sleep.
The RAIB said his working patterns may have contributed to his fatigue but Lothian Buses said his rostered hours were within the limits stated in the Driver and Vehicles Standards Agency guidance."
This isn't exactly clear that working patterns were the issue. Sleep problems from other causes can leave you extremely fatigued with serious effects on mental function. (Different issue is if your employers appreciate that this may render you effectively incapable of safely carrying out some types of work / some activities - and will consider you unwell as a result. If you fear disciplinary measures as a result you might not report it.)
Local bus drivers can legally drive for up to 10 hours per day. I do not consider that safe.
Anecdotally, I’ve also witnessed bus drivers making a lot of mistakes just before coming off their shifts.
@chdot: They have the option of doing nothing??
The RAIB isn't a court of law, or a regulatory body. Its role is to investigate accidents and make recommendations about steps that might be taken to avoid them happening again. The RAIB cannot force anyone to follow their recommendations. The article is about the RAIB's report which was published today (you can have a read of it here if you want to) - whether anything further might come of it e.g. from the Office of Road and Rail to enforce compliance with the RAIB's recommendations is another issue. (You will I'm sure have noted the reference to the investigation being carried out by the Scottish Fatalities Investigation Unit under the aegis of the procurator fiscal, so legal action may yet be in the offing.)
So yes, in that sense absent any further action by body with the relevant authority Edinburgh Trams do indeed have the option to do nothing. But taking that option would certainly count against them in the event of another, similar accident in the future. You will again have noted their statement in the article, that they have already addressed the RAIB's recommendations regarding the audibility of their trams' warning devices, and reviewing risk factors associated with off-street pedestrian tram crossings, and a plan is in place to implement additional risk control measures.
Thanks.
Always good when people post about things they really know about!
I haven't tried it yet, but my other half did on the first day of operation. It was after 9am yet she was the first to use contactless on that bus according to the driver.
That payment and the next both worked, but the 3rd and 4th gave an error. Drivers let her board both times. One told her they had received no training in the system.
Not sure how long it should take for the payment to go through, but doesn't look like anything has been taken off the card (for any of the journies).
The payment seems to come off two days or so later. She can see her journeys and how much she'll pay here: https://lothianbuses.com/journeyhistory
I see the information about the airport but is already out of date. They have or are about to introduce a special Maybury Fare on it of £2.50 per journey. I'm not sure if it applies to all city stops or just Maybury.
All city stops. Trying to make people use the X17/X18 express services instead of the 100.
Lothian drivers have rejected an offer to stop the strike. Will go on strike this coming Friday unless an even more last minute agreement is reached
Looks the bus cavalcade today to celebrate 100 years of Lothian Buses has been cancelled because of the strike.shame.
OH was disappointed to get on a LB bus without the contactless machine, especially as she'd already swiped in one bus and was building for a dayticket. However the driver let her on for free.
Mr fimm wants to know how he proves that he has paid for journey if ticket inspectors board his bus, given that if he pays contactless he doesn't get a ticket. Anyone know?
I absentmindedly bought some more tickets on my phone so I'll use them up before trying contectless.
I imagine they would have portable devices to check whether you've 'tapped in' similar to in London.
Same as on the trams, no? The ticket inspectors validate your Citysmart card to make sure you swiped/tapped before boarding.
Ah, like my card that has my rail tickets on it? The ticket inspectors have a device to check that. So one can check if a particular amount has been paid by a card? (It will of course be the last transaction on the card.)
But if you have used your debit card to pay for a bus ticket, how is that worked out by ticket inspector? Do they have a device that can read your debit card? Or is the assumption now that everyone on the bus is there legitimately?
Given that the bus strike might be starting on Friday, I've used the opportunity to promote https://cyclefridays.wordpress.com/ on our company Yammer (intranet) page for the office.
Query - will the streets be better because there'll be fewer buses, or worse, as more commuters come by car?
Princes Street & bus lanes will be nicer. That's about it...
(good luck to anyone trying to using the Canal on Friday!)
It'll probably be better, cars will be nose to tail.
There will still be first buses, borders buses, etc one of the few down sides having a government owned bus company the occasional strike, when was the last time a privately owned bus company went on strike?
@Ed1 A couple of days ago, in Yorkshire (First):
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-49034484
First drivers were on strike in Aberdeen fairly recently too.
EDIT: Last March, longer ago than I'd remembered: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-43540518
Friday, still school hols, roads may not be too bad
One driver who'll be getting the sack...
Incase anyone takes their bike on the tram remember that it's officially prohibited all the way through August. Might get lucky if you have a nice TSA and it's quiet!
Whole upper deck gone, lucky no passengers. Fauldhouse in danger of losing 3rd place in bogus survey in Scotsman about UK’s healthiest places.
You must log in to post.
Cycling in Edinburgh Flickr group
Video embedded using Easy Video Embed plugin
posts