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  1. chdot
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  2. davecykl
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    Ummm, just because a bus stop doesn't currently have any bus services calling at it at present, doesn't mean that there might not potentially be bus services using it at some point again in the future.

    Also (although it does not appear to be the case here) if any of these bus stops are stops with stopping/waiting restrictions, then surely the lines would have to be repainted?

    Looks like typical Evilling News grumbling to me: the workers were repainting the road lines anyway, so there will have been negligible cost to them repainting the bus stop markings.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  3. gembo
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    JC Decaux also pay to advertise on bus stops (whether or not they have seen a bus). My favourite which i have doubtless bored you about many times is in the remote shale oil hamlet of Woolfords in South Lanarkshire. Furthest west the Orange GLASGOW/SPTE buses ever came, way back in the early 20th century, well maybe 1980s. I witnessed this once back then in nearby Carnwath, most disconcerting. Anyway the woolfords stop is lonely and bus shy but would provide shelter on a day like today.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  4. I were right about that saddle
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    Meme city.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  5. gembo
    Member

    Well I am mocked by my family for sticking my arm out (as per LB instruction) to let the driver know I wish him to stop but this is even more direct.

    Came back from glasgow late the other week after excellent Milk Carton Kid gig. To find Dalry road being dug up. Temporary bus stop way up beyond Sweary Jim’s Barbers. 30 mins to wait, every bus negotiates the strange dug up lanes and stops at the temp bus stop until finally the 44 comes round the corner but decides to stop at the shut bus stop. I tank it down the road taking PRIMARY just like chap in photo above. Driver waits and lets me on. I suggest he stops at the spot I ran from. He obliges much to the mirth of those who were hanging about the temp bus stop. However, I dont see them laughing if he floored it past them

    Posted 4 years ago #
  6. crowriver
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    "Furthest west the Orange GLASGOW/SPTE buses ever came"

    Shurely furthest east? (Ed.)

    Posted 4 years ago #
  7. gembo
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    Oops yes sorry, west would be beyond bowling?? Not sure of the Venn overlap between Strathclyde Region and SPTE?? Western Scottish had the buses in Ayr and the country green buses were from a company called AA. Green buses also waited at Juni green to take the yokels to balerno and beyond in ye olden days.

    Famously Mull was in Strathclyde Region

    Posted 4 years ago #
  8. CycleAlex
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    Lots of changes changes coming on 29/03 as well as Leith Walk tram work diversions: https://www.lothianbuses.com/news/2020/02/service-change-to-take-effect-from-sunday-29-march-2020/

    New: N14, N35
    Withdrawn: 6, 69, X12, N7 and N34
    12 is cut to George St. 1 extended to Seafield as a replacement.

    Tram diversion map

    Posted 4 years ago #
  9. unhurt
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    Well I am mocked by my family for sticking my arm out (as per LB instruction) to let the driver know I wish him to stop

    Is your please stop here I wish to embark gesture especially theatrical?

    Posted 4 years ago #
  10. gembo
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    It is a very average gesture, the drivers of all persuasions accept it as the universal and modest hailing of bus gesture.

    Other actions for which my family mock me

    Making bramble jelly (aspect 1 picking brambles, aspect 2 boiling up the jelly)
    Sweeping the floor (said to be OCD)
    Putting sand in between the mono block to prevent weeds (again said to be OCD)

    Posted 4 years ago #
  11. acsimpson
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    I feel your family would routinely mock me as I have taken part in all those activities. I assume they do not feel any responsibility to pull up weeds from the gaps.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  12. davecykl
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    Regarding Leith Walk, will it definitely be the case that it will still be possible to cycle in both directions during the tramway construction works, and will there be some form of temporary segregated cycleway for southbound (uphill) traffic, as trying to share a single lane with all other traffic would be very unpleasant!

    Posted 4 years ago #
  13. CycleAlex
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    @davecykl From the traffic management maps, there will be some sort of segregated route the from London Road to Foot of the Walk. e.g.: https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/tramstonewhaven/downloads/file/230/balfour-street-to-smiths-place-traffic-management-plan

    Seems like it may be narrow but still infinitely more preferable to sharing a single lane uphill!

    Posted 4 years ago #
  14. gembo
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    @acsimpson correct on both counts

    Posted 4 years ago #
  15. chdot
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    Free shuttle bus -

    https://twitter.com/maxmitchell91/status/1229501260509913089

    Posted 4 years ago #
  16. chdot
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  17. chdot
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  18. chdot
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  19. chdot
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  20. gembo
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    The story about 1 in 6 stops being removed makes perfect sense given that the 44 is the route in question and many of the stops in Juni Green, Currie and Blerno are a few feet apart

    THe other story doesn't want to open for me not sure why

    Posted 4 years ago #
  21. jonty
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    I guess the whole "contactless not working for child tickets" thing won't be an issue for much longer then.

    I wonder how much effort (if any) they'd already spent on fixing it?

    Posted 4 years ago #
  22. chdot
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  23. crowriver
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    It's great news for young people and their parents.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  24. gembo
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    Edinburgh bucks trend with static numbers using the bus

    Posted 4 years ago #
  25. chdot
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    Fall in bus travel as car ownership hits record

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-51644126

    Posted 4 years ago #
  26. chdot
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    The council received one tender for the 20 service and two for the 63, both of which used to be run by Lothian buses, and awarded both contracts to privately owned First.

    The decision was slammed by Liberal Democrat spokesman Kevin Lang who described the bus company as “increasingly obsessed with core money spinning routes”.

    https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/politics/council/lothian-buses-hand-ps35m-council-subsidy-rivals-after-two-edinburgh-bus-services-go-first-2004305?itm_source=parsely-api

    Posted 4 years ago #
  27. davecykl
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    I don't understand why Lothian Buses wouldn't bid for these services. I would assume that the subsidy covers the costs of running the service?

    The #20 is the only service that serves Ratho (which is growing as new houses are built), although the route in its current form is clearly a bit of a join-the-dots route elsewhere that is mostly duplicated by other routes (albeit with changes), apart from a loop in Wester Hailes that is at most 400 - 500 m from other services (no worse than many other parts of the city), and a loop in Kingsknowe/Longstone that is a little more cut off by the railway and canal, but could probably be served by sending alternate (or 1 in 4) #44s that way instead?

    Certainly, Ratho needs served, but I wonder whether extending the service further to EICA (somewhat awkward, admittedly (it certainly should be extended at least to the proposed canal overbridge, if it gets built)) and rerouting it east of Edinburgh Park / Sighthill into the city centre might not make it rather more useful?

    The #63 is a bit of an odd one: as a possibly faster link into (or out of) town from Heriot-Watt to tram/train interchanges at Edinburgh Park and Gyle/Gateway, I can see the use, but has it ever been actively promoted, and does it run frequently enough to be any real use?

    Kirkliston is now served by Lothian Country Buses (with connections possible at Maybury/Gyle (albeit not ideal)). I wonder if there is actually very much demand for service between Kirkliston and Queensferry (for Queensferry - Gateway etc, there is the train, and a good argument for TfE to have integrated ticketing for all stations within the "metro Edinburgh" area, so that the local rail network can be a proper part of the city transport network, rather than an "outsider").

    But if these services are no longer operated directly by TfE, then what uses they might have loses the network effect of no longer being part of the same ticketing network, and they also vanish from the maps, meaning that even fewer people know they exist, and so ridership most likely drops further. (I still miss that the #13 is no longer a TfE service, as there have been times in the past when that was useful to me and I could use it to avoid having to go right into the city centre and back out again. Hands up if you even know that the service #13 exists now?)

    Posted 4 years ago #
  28. chdot
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    “Hands up if you even know that the service #13 exists now?)”

    I knew it went ‘private’.

    I think it changed operator too.

    BUT

    I’m not going to pretend I know if it still operates - or details of route (I know there were some changes).

    Posted 4 years ago #
  29. Murun Buchstansangur
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    #13 still runs, hourly service.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  30. chdot
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    She was just saying similar on R4

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