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Panorama: Britain’s Bus Crisis
What has gone wrong with Britain’s buses? Richard Bilton travels coast to coast to find out.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000ggpr
(Not Scotland! - have to watch on iPlayer)
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It was on BBC One Scotland at 22:45 (not 23:05 as it said in Radio Times - published schedules are all to pot at the moment due to no sport & having to report HMG's magical mutating pandemic strategy). For those with PVRs (or insomnia) it's being repeated on the BBC News channel at 03:30 on Tuesday and Friday this week. Or, as you say, it's on iPlayer.
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Now that we've been advised not to use public transport, Lothian Buses carrying around mostly fresh air?
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Buses sitting still all through town to allow the timetable to catch up this morning. Won't be sustainable.
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@IWRATS that absolutely infuriates me, whether as a passenger or having to ride round stationary buses (which invariably start pulling off as I'm abeam then middle of the bus). All because some clown complained a few years back that they missed a slightly early running bus, which resulted in a fine I believe.
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Traffic Commissioners expect 95% of buses to depart from each stop between 1 minute early and 5 minutes late of its timetabled departure. Continual violation of this standard could see an operator hauled up before the Commissioner - with the ultimate sanction being the loss of their operating licence. In practice, lateness is almost never punished as it is generally due to congestion, but leaving early is considered a cardinal sin in the bus industry.
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“but leaving early is considered a cardinal sin in the bus industry.”
Any useful links?
My nearest bus can be 3 mins early.
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From a draft guidance document produced by the Senior Traffic Commissioner:
"Bus passengers do not want to miss their bus connection as a result of a bus leaving the stop early and the industry has always recognised this fact and so early running is widely regarded by bus operators as the cardinal sin within the industry."
Language a bit too fruity to make it into the final version though.
Links to the current Scottish guidance all appear to be broken.
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Going by a quick visual survey while crossing London Road this morning, most buses largely empty: sometimes only one passenger, most have under a dozen. Everyone sitting at least a metre apart...
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“but leaving early is considered a cardinal sin in the bus industry.”
Get caught leaving early in Lothian Buses and you're immediately on a Final Written Warning.
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Interesting!
Not Stagecoach then...
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VERY old tale (may or may not be true).
Someone I knew used to say that when he was a student in Dundee he had a summer job as a bus conductor (younger readers look it up).
One day his boss said to him and driver ‘I’ve had a complaint that you left someone at a bus stop when you were on the last bus’.
‘We never saw anyone’.
‘He saw you waving at him’.
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Lothian Buses operating reduced services from Sunday.
https://www.lothianbuses.com/timetables/
Hardly surprising, given nearly empty buses trundling by on London Road over the past few days. Bit of a spike in single-occupant cars (not many vans) this morning - presume parents going to pick up bairns, or heading home to look after same, or heading to shops to act like locusts?
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From Cllr Lang's FB.
"MORE QUESTIONS THAN ANSWERS ON QUEENSFERRY ROAD BUS LANES
A new report from Edinburgh Council officials has rekindled plans to install new bus lanes on Queensferry Road.Folks may remember that introducing bus lanes was considered by the Council last year. However, an official report concluded dedicated lanes “were not feasible” partly because of risks around displaced traffic.
We are keen for buses to be quicker, more reliable and provide a better alternative to car use. We also know that Lothian Buses would consider possible additional services.
However, we believe there are still more questions than answers on this. It’s not clear how traffic would be stopped from simply rat-running through Whitehouse Road, Gamekeepers Road and Cramond Road South, just to avoid Queensferry Road (even more than they do now). How would residents in Barnton Park, who only have two ways out of the estate, be protected? Would there be new services to help those who currently have no choice but to use their car?
Kevin challenged officials on this at a council committee meeting last week. We did not find the answers convincing.
We will seeking further meetings with officials over the coming days and will keep people informed throughout."
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It’s not clear how traffic would be stopped from simply rat-running through Whitehouse Road, Gamekeepers Road and Cramond Road South, just to avoid Queensferry Road (even more than they do now).
I don't suppose that making the rat run 4 km long rather than 2 km would be sufficient?
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It’s not clear how traffic would be stopped from simply rat-running through Whitehouse Road, Gamekeepers Road and Cramond Road South, just to avoid Queensferry Road (even more than they do now).
Block Crammond Road North at that random roundabout?Posted 3 years ago # -
THE Capital’s flagship council-owned bus company is set to be merged with Edinburgh Trams to form a single operation in a major shake-up of public transport in the city, putting an end to competition between buses and trams.
The move to bring together Lothian Buses and the tram company and scrap the overarching organisation Transport for Edinburgh would mean savings in senior management and other operational costs.And council chiefs say the creation of a single, integrated company would be accompanied by a comprehensive new public transport strategy and a redesign of Edinburgh’s bus network, which would include tackling congestion in the city centre, particularly reducing the number of buses using Princes Street.
Good. Hope this is integrated with CCT works.
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@chdot: So well on the way to back to normal then. Hopefully this will reduce the temptation for people to take the car rather the bus.
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All services suspended after 7:30 tonight due to the current spate of bus attacks.
I’d lock the little (rule 2)s up and throw away the key personally...
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Virtually the only people taking buses at night these days apart from some shift workers seem to be bored kids looking to fling bricks at the drivers
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I’m sure there’s valid socioeconomic drivers for some of that sort of delinquency but it definitely fires up the Old Testament voice on one of my shoulders. Also having been relieved of a bike from our store a few years ago by the local young team probably doesn’t help.
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