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"We had a good local bus service but now we’ve lost the 1, 12, 16 and 22 from the heart of Leith so now a half mile walk is necessary to enter the centre.
"It’s ridiculous. The abundance of double yellow lines, no drop off points or delivery spaces compound the problem. There’s only one disabled parking spot for this area. It’s a money making ploy charging residents for permits when there is not enough spaces to park. They have ruined the area.
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How dare they re-route a couple of bus services and leave us with a paltry £1,000,000,000 high capacity, high frequency tram service, with a stop less than 200m from my front door!
200 metres? How am I supposed to walk that? It's miles!
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Unreliable Edinburgh bus routes to be reviewed after communities 'devastated' by lack of services
The council admitted it was "not delivering services to the best of our abilities" and will seek to have bus improvements in place by early next year.
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Notice on bus stops from @on_lothianbuses says from 10 Sep no 9 will not serve Broughton St but go along London St/Drummond Place/Gt King St up the Mound. So since changes in May, frequency of buses in street will have halved. What do residents, local businesses, think of that?
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https://twitter.com/betterbroughton/status/1694375374052835495
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#EdinWebCast
@CllrScottArthur motion promises Jan report on
#BikeHire & #CarClub
Also reducing impact of #congestion on bus delays
[@scotgov could help by
1. allowing bus cameras to enforce illegal #buslane parking
2. updating #TrafficOrder rules so 24-hr lanes easier to create]
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https://twitter.com/spokeslothian/status/1702330609266499882
A lot of the councillors flannelling about how the City Car Club was about helping people not to own second(!) cars. No mention of the benefits of people giving up car ownership altogther. FFS we don't deserve to live on this planet as a species
50 new Volvo electric buses ordered for Edinburgh.
"Each vehicle has been specified with five lithium-ion batteries giving the maximum 470kW/h of onboard energy storage – offering a range up to 300km depending on operating conditions."
This is good news but compared to an e-bike a great deal of energy is used to move the weight of this powerpack around. Average e-bike is 500Wh. So one bus carries same amount of fuel as 940 e-bikes or 470 enhanced e-bikes. Of course not comparing like for like and would rather see lithium packs in public vehicles although trams are good/better way of using electricity efficiently. (Enquiry out now).
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McGill’s Group has announced that it is to cease its bus services in West Lothian.
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https://www.mcgillsscotlandeast.co.uk/cancellation-eastern-scottish-routes-21-23-25-26-x22-x24
Has been rumoured for some time on other forums, although the actual announcement seems to have come sooner than most of the rumourologists expected.
I did note this in McGill's statement:
The West Lothian network has endured sustained head-to-head competition from a nearby publicly subsidised operator
Assuming that this is a dig a Lothian Buses, it was my understanding that LB as a company is not subsidised by Edinburgh City Council - indeed, up until coronavirus turned things upside down, it paid the council an ~£6M annual dividend. Yes, certain routes might receive targeted subsidies from the local authority - but I thought that was true of some of McGill's West Lothian routes too.
I'm just wondering whether there is any meaningful substance behind McGill's assertion, or is it just part of the "rough and tumble" that seems to be the norm within the deregulated bus industry?
Isn't it the case that certain routes can be subsidised, rather than the entire bus operator getting a slosh of cash?
@ejstubbs - yes, Lothian Buses are publicly owned but not publicly subsidised. If the Council wishes to subsidise a service that cannot be provided commercially then it has to put that out to tender. It cannot just give the subsidy to Lothian Buses. This is why you see a few lightly used routes being run by companies such as Edinburgh Coach Line or EM Horsburgh - I doubt Lothian are interested in running these services, even with the subsidy.
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New evidence has emphasised again that improving bus services in Glasgow to be a vital step in boosting the city's prosperity.
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Herald
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Good morning Andrew and I hope this finds you well. It is true that the trackers are currently set to the timetables rather than providing a real time update. At the moment I do not have a timeline on when this will change. Regards, Scott
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Edinburgh Council has been urged to come clean over issues with its long-awaited multi-million pound bus tracker system causing “concern and confusion” to passengers.
Newly-installed on-street screens intended to provide real-time service updates are displaying timetables without live location data, leading to inaccurate arrival times being shown at bus shelters across the capital.
Residents have “inundated” a local councillor with complaints about the discrepancies it is feared could “put people off using public transport”.
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EBUG spokesperson Harald Tobermann said: “We are keen to have proper quality information available which is key to increasing bus ridership which is in turn improving other things, where houses are being built and the environment is being improved.
“With this information, the most important thing is credibility. If you put up provisional information, you have to flag it up as a provisional, testing phase. If you can’t be bothered to do that – to put up that it’s not the real thing – people stop trusting you.”
Lothian Buses was contacted for comment.
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https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/edinburgh-council-sorry-locals-fume-28102034
The last time I looked at the bus signs, there were notices saying that the new screens are being tested...
The ones I've seen have definitely been showing some times. If advice is to just use your phone for live times, and the timetables are available on the bus stops themselves, switching them back into 'testing' mode rather than misleading people would seem like a sensible idea.
There seems to be a strange mix of timetable and actual times. On Friday night heading into and out of town the tracker seemed to reflect the app which also reflected reality.
Noticeably the tracker was showing minutes until bus expected while previously these new screens were showing time due. I wonder if the time due is timetable based while the minutes until expected are live times.
What was missing was any suggestion at the stop on Princes street that the bus would be diverted along Queensferry Road/Ravelston Dykes to Murrayfield instead of going along the A8.
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Edinburgh council sorry over confusing bus times
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One of the UK's richest men has called for SPT to be disbanded in response to a report suggesting the transport partnership is best placed to organise a bus franchise in the city.
Sandy Easdale, co-owner of McGill's Buses reacted to a story in The Herald detailing findings from the think tank Centre For Cities that named SPT as the most obvious choice to coordinate bus services.
Mr Easdale and his brother, owners of Scotland's largest independent bus company, have been consistently firm in their opposition to the suggestion franchising would improve Glasgow's transit system.
A report, Miles Better: Improving public transport in the Glasgow city region, which was launched in the Scottish Parliament by Centre For Cities chief executive Andrew Carter, states that Glasgow's economy is underperforming by £7 billion annually due to a lack of fully joined up transport options for residents.
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@chdot: That would be the McGill's Buses that walked away from West Lothian, leaving Lothian Buses (in its Lothian Country [sic] form) to pick up the pieces? Hmm...
Well exactly, a certain degree of self interest…
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One of the UK's richest men has called for SPT to be disbanded
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Hmmm - private sector bus companies have been happy to oeprate franchised services in London for the past 30 odd years. I suspect our "richest man" is really worried about the break-up of the cosy private sector bus monopolies operating across most of Scotland and actually having to compete to run services. Odd how these billionaire capitalist types always seem to blanche at actual competition.
didn't they run that story this summer as well?
Interesting that the focus is on Morningside and B'field.
Mr SRD was in craigleith last night and (presumably) local kids were causing the Timpsons guy a lot of grief. Eventually someone from Sainsbury's intervened. Apparently this is common and even worse at Chesser. Timpson's guy take was 'they've closed the youth centres; there's no where for the kids to go, so they hang out and cause trouble".
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Hi, we appreciate it is frustrating however, Edinburgh is one of the most congested cities in the UK and unfortuantly during peak times, this will be a factor in the reliability of bus services. If you wish to make a complaint you can do so here -
https://support.lothianbuses.com/hc/en-gb/requests/new
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https://twitter.com/on_lothianbuses/status/1730626502960488727
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