This is what happens when you privatise everything - public services get held to ransom
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Posted 7 months ago #
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Perhaps they could design a low-loader system for the tram. With buses hauled by electric tram-tractor unit the last few miles into the city?
Posted 7 months ago # -
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There has been a noticeably more pro-bus attitude at the City of Edinburgh Council. The revised City Mobility Plan offers some potentially big wins for buses, although these look to be for the medium term.
Edinburgh Council finalised its Public Transport and other Action Plans. The revised City Mobility Plan is a marked improvement on the original, but we still have doubts about the detail. For example, we believe it:
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https://www.cockburnassociation.org.uk/news/guest-blog/a-view-from-the-bus
Posted 6 months ago # -
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Really informative footfall stats. The bus station serves more than double the number of passengers of Haymarket Station. Imagine the furore if Haymarket were to be closed.
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Posted 6 months ago # -
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The TTRO will come into effect on 24th June 2024. Below is a copy of the South St. David Street traffic management layout plan for your information. This layout requires us to move the Airlink buses from South St. David Street for the duration of the works. In order to provide an alternative bus stop for this service the TTRO will introduce a bus gate on Waverley Bridge, reopening the bridge for to the airport bus services provided by Lothian and McGill’s buses. Bus operators are aware of this change, and they are in the process of applying to the Traffic Commissioner for permission to amend their services for this period. Bus operators understand that the reopening of Waverley Bridge is a short-term measure, and that the expectation is that they will return to their current stops once the work at Jenners is complete. No other traffic will be permitted to access Princes Street from Waverley Bridge.
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https://drscottarthur.scot/2024/05/02/jenners-and-waverley-bridge-update
Posted 6 months ago # -
Not ideal.
Surely the left turn from Waverley Bridge onto Princes St should be ‘Buses and Cycles Only’?
Posted 6 months ago # -
That’s the City Mobility Plan oot the windae then
Posted 6 months ago # -
Another bit of Spaces for People infrastructure bites the dust. The city centre gets that little bit worse for pedestrians - especially those coming to and from the Waverley.
Posted 6 months ago # -
Looks like it may be possible to find a way for the bus station to stay where it is after all:
Edinburgh bus station: Owners say they could extend lease after all or even sell site to council
Posted 6 months ago # -
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Proposals for five new supported bus services in the west of Edinburgh are set to be discussed at the Transport and Environment Committee next week (Thursday 23 May).
Under the plans the routes would be The Gyle to Hermiston Park & Ride via Ratho; Queensferry to The Gyle; Cramond to Balerno; Wester Hailes to Chesser and The Gyle to Clermiston.
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Posted 6 months ago # -
"A new route between awarded leaving long-standing pleas for a direct Ratho to city centre service unanswered." ?????
also a bit puzzled by this? :
"She said the return journey in both directions would require up to a 60 minute wait."
Posted 5 months ago # -
You have to wait on average half the duration of the service period, so 30 minute average wait for an hourly bus. As the return trip is two buses, on average you'll have an hour of dead time?
Posted 5 months ago # -
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We’ve been working with @urbanthingsco on something new… Big things are APPening
#7DaysToGo #PlanBuyTravel @EdinburghTrams
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Posted 5 months ago # -
@Dave - sure.
badly written at the least.
Posted 5 months ago # -
"She said the return journey in both directions would require up to a 60 minute wait."
She's clearly still living in the 20th C or has never heard of a thing called "apps" or Google Maps. All of which tell you exactly when the bus is coming.
You literally just pitch up 5 minutes before the bus arrives. Barely any waiting required at all.
Unless of course she's going from Ratho into Edinburgh and back to pick up a bag of nails (or a fridge-freezer!?), but then which Century is she living in? - You can literally get that stuff delivered. Literally.
Posted 5 months ago # -
yes, I think the point is about the wait at Hermiston gait.
It is hard to imagine that many people making the full journey.
I have friends who live out there with teenagers, who have commented on the limited public transport links for kids, but they also moved out there, knowing the links were poor.
Posted 5 months ago # -
Ratho has always struggled to have a transport link to Edinburgh. I am going to guess Ratho Station had a direct route in the 1960s - bit of a trek over the hill but people did walk a bit in ye olden days.
Then there was a bus that went to Wester Hailes and the terminus there.
I would have thought Hermiston Gait better for trains or Trams?
Posted 5 months ago # -
It's all very well saying that you can see when an infrequent service is coming on one's phone, but by that token a twice daily bus should be great service as you'd barely be waiting at the stop for more than a couple of minutes.
The bus will arrive at your doctor / dentist / school etc an average of 30 minutes away from the ideal time (on an hourly service). If we get the bus to swimming lessons for example we have to leave incredibly earlier than by bike or car, scooter etc. and it's not much consolation to know when it's coming.
It's hard to know what to do with places like Ratho. Loads of car journeys to Balerno for kids after school activities etc. Should a bus be laid on at any price while we're closing down care homes and collapsing other parts of the budget?
Posted 5 months ago # -
“Should a bus be laid on at any price while we're closing down care homes and collapsing other parts of the budget?”
Which of course is a common type of argument.
‘Why should we have cycle lanes (“which no one uses”…) instead of fixing potholes?’
I have no answer to the Ratho problem - I’ve only ever cycled there!
I have some sympathy with the idea that ‘all parts of Edinburgh should have a direct bus service to the centre’.
On one level simplistic - do Ratho residents want to go to c of E?
But a council should try to provide an adequate level of service to all taxpayers. (Yes, that’s simplistic!)
It does seem odd that a sizeable community has a similar level to some small rural areas.
Long term consequence of questionable planning and pro-car policies and decisions.
Google maps says there are options, but nothing particularly fast, convenient or regular.
Often quicker to cycle apparently!
Posted 5 months ago # -
They also filmed the Doug McLure film at the Ratho Quarry - The Land That Time Forgot.
Posted 5 months ago # -
Probably overly simplistic but the East Coast Buses service to the various towns and villages in East Lothian seems to be reasonably decent. I admit I use it infrequently and usually at weekends so do not have a view of the stresses of using it daily for commuting/shopping/taking children to various classes etc. I imagine there are financial implications but could such a service not be replicated for Ratho and other towns villages on the west?
Posted 5 months ago # -
I have friends who moved to Ratho with the plan of using the tram from the airport park and ride to get to Victoria Quay...
I have some sympathy with the issues with an hourly bus service. We have a very fast train service from Musselburgh station to Waverley, but it is only once an hour. We do have a bus service as well, of course. So often the choice is "spend the time sitting on a bus, or get the train and be very very early". If there's a suggestion to meet for beer in central Edinburgh we'll often say "We'll be there 5 minutes late because that's when the train gets us there." This does not work for something like a hospital appointment, of course.
Posted 5 months ago # -
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Transport guru Professor David Begg urges all-day bus lanes and greater enforcement
Increasing journey times for buses in Edinburgh must be reversed or they will slow to walking pace and only be used by the frail, transport guru Professor David Begg has warned.The former city council transport convener, who introduced Greenways bus lanes in the capital in 1997 which cut journey times, said buses must be given greater priority over other traffic.
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Posted 5 months ago # -
From today
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Lothian have today (Wednesday 5 June) announced changes to fares in west Edinburgh which will see price reductions for many customers from Sunday 30 June.
The change will see the Lothian Country ‘cityWEST’ zone become an extension of the ‘city’ fares zone, with Adult single tickets for Queensferry, Newbridge & Dalmahoy to Edinburgh city centre reduced to £2.00.
Lothian DAYticket, LATEticket, Family DAYticket and countryWEST DAYticket will now also be valid in cityWEST zones.
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Posted 4 months ago # -
A bus an hour from Balerno to Crammond. Scheduled to take around 50 mins.
Posted 4 months ago # -
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fully electric
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Existing ones hybrid?
Posted 2 months ago # -
Aye, they certainly have existing hybrid ones. They also have electric single-deckers already.
Posted 2 months ago #
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