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  1. LaidBack
    Member

    That's interesting news.
    Might encourage TfE to get their contactless card readers at the tram stops working soon.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  2. chdot
    Admin

  3. chdot
    Admin

    "

    Today’s news that Bill Devlin and Norman Strachan are set to be handed a total of £270,000 worth of payments for three years will therefore infuriate not just the council but city residents in general.

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/opinion/leader-let-s-hope-obscene-bus-pay-will-end-1-4264177

    Posted 8 years ago #
  4. chdot
    Admin

  5. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    "The Ballymena firm, Wrightbus, has won a major order in Scotland for more than 300 vehicles.

    They will be supplied to Lothian Buses over a four-year period from 2017."

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-37848839

    Posted 8 years ago #
  6. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Lothian are tweaking their livery again apparently.

    The red and "gold" (Dirty bronze) on the Hybrids is going, and there's a new variant of the madder and white livery that loses the "swooshes" and has a wider white and narrower madder bar at the bottom. The "Lothian Buses" logos are a bit less prominent too.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  7. chdot
    Admin

    "

    Bull bars are being fitted to some buses to prevent overhanging trees and branches damaging vehicles and injuring passengers

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/overhanging-trees-put-safety-of-bus-passengers-at-risk-1-4278993

    Posted 8 years ago #
  8. chdot
    Admin

    "

    Ten of the old fleet were split in half and extended – making them the longest Routemasters ever built – with the oldest of these built in 1959.

    The move to put them out to pasture comes after Lothian Buses unveiled a new fleet of 30 open-topped double-deckers costing £6.5million which have been specially commissioned to meet environmental standards.

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/end-of-the-road-for-edinburgh-s-vintage-sightseeing-buses-1-4280015

    Posted 8 years ago #
  9. kaputnik
    Moderator

    Bus purists will be pleased that these interlopers from London are finally off our streets.

    Posted 8 years ago #
  10. chdot
    Admin

  11. cc
    Member

    Bus purists will be pleased that these interlopers from London are finally off our streets.

    Routemasters were in use in Glasgow and Renfrewshire in the 70s. I wasn't aware of them being particularly London-specific. (It was fun being able to jump on/off the platform, swing on the pole etc, unless the clippie caught you.) I vaguely recall the last Routemasters being sent to London though after they were withdrawn from Scottish fleets.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  12. chdot
    Admin

  13. crowriver
    Member

    "Routemasters were in use in Glasgow and Renfrewshire in the 70s. "

    Also in Edinburgh. I vividly recall catching one from Wester Hailes to Waverley Bridge in 1974. Folk used to smoke on the top deck too.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  14. crowriver
    Member

    Petition

    Calling on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to legislate to regulate bus services in Scotland and to carry out an inquiry into the benefits of bringing bus services in Scotland into common ownership.

    http://www.parliament.scot/GettingInvolved/Petitions/busregulation

    Closing Date for Online Petition: 20 December 2016

    (Uses Lothian Buses as an example of how to do it right: think we might agree?)

    Posted 7 years ago #
  15. minus six
    Member

    signed

    Posted 7 years ago #
  16. gembo
    Member

    I have also signed it too

    Posted 7 years ago #
  17. chdot
    Admin

  18. chdot
    Admin

    "

    Transport convener Lesley
Hinds said she was disappointed at Stagecoach’s decision. But she added: “I have a meeting tomorrow with Lothian Buses to see if they are able to step in and provide the service on a commercial basis. If not, the council will have to have further discussions on how people in South Queensferry can have a good, efficient, affordable bus service.”

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/stagecoach-to-pull-south-queensferry-s-bus-link-to-capital-1-4404951

    Posted 7 years ago #
  19. chdot
    Admin

    "

    “As a council, we understand that these are very important routes and services and we appreciate how important it is for the residents of these areas to see the continuation of bus services. Lothian Buses have agreed to come back to the council within the next two to three weeks, once they have collected and analysed passenger loadings relevant to the routes to see if they can develop a commercially viable proposition.”

    "

    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/bus-firm-in-talks-to-take-over-south-queensferry-route-1-4407445

    Posted 7 years ago #
  20. jonty
    Member

    Time for more bus lanes on the A90?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  21. chdot
    Admin

  22. crowriver
    Member

    For once, the comments are quite reasonable. Shocked? Moi?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  23. HankChief
    Member

    https://lothiancountry.co.uk/

    We are proud to announce to the people of Queensferry that from the 4th June 2017 a brand new bus company called Lothiancountry will be commencing the operation of services from South Queensferry to Edinburgh following the withdrawal of services by Stagecoach.

    Lothiancountry will be wholly owned by Lothian Buses but will operate as a standalone business with it’s own buses and products.

    Historically two major transport providers First and Stagecoach have been unable to operate commercially viable services within this area with low patronage and increasing levels of traffic congestion contributing to their withdrawal.

    The successful continuation of bus services is wholly dependent on customer usage levels – it’s important that the community embrace our new venture to ensure its ongoing success.

    What’s happening now
    We have been working hard behind the scenes over the last few weeks gathering customer and journey time data, and working in partnership with the City of Edinburgh Council on the delivery of bus priority measures that ensure our ability to run reliable services which optimise journey times and deliver a positive customer experience.

    Some of these measures have now been agreed for implementation:

    Traffic signal prioritisation at Princes Street/Queensferry Street junction and Queensferry Street/Melville Street

    A commitment that the existing citybound bus lane is not compromised on approach to Dean Bridge

    Review of parking restrictions on key arterial city routes to allow for passing places for buses

    There is, however, an ongoing need to look long term and strategically at traffic flows into the city

    My bold

    Posted 7 years ago #
  24. Klaxon
    Member

    All these subsidiary companies running only 2 routes are turning Lothian Buses into a branding omnishambles

    (Very good news about the continuing expansion of the network, don't get me wrong)

    Posted 7 years ago #
  25. chdot
    Admin

    "

    Some of these measures have now been agreed for implementation:

    ...

    "

    So some sensible pro-PT effort by bus cos and CEC.

    Might benefit cycling too(?)

    "

    There is, however, an ongoing need to look long term and strategically at traffic flows into the city

    "

    Stating the obvious.

    But is that saying 'watch this space' or '
    CEC won't do some of the things we want'?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  26. chdot
    Admin

    "All these subsidiary companies running only 2 routes are turning Lothian Buses into a branding omnishambles"

    Indeed!

    Basic problem of course is fares - and the need to charge more for some journeys.

    Remarkable value for some long journeys across (and outside) the city on a single fare.

    Will LB dare introduce a zone system?

    If not maybe two new companies -

    Mostly Edinburgh and Rest of Lothian.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  27. crowriver
    Member

    So.

    Lothian Buses
    Lothian Country Buses
    East Coast Buses
    Lothiancountry

    (That last sounds a bit too similar to the second one, no?)

    However apparently:

    "Lothian Country Buses services 104 & 113 will join East Coast Buses from Sunday 23 April."

    https://lothianbuses.co.uk/news/article/changes-to-lothian-country-buses-routes-timetables

    So.

    Is / are Lothian Country Buses no more? Or does it / do they live on as Lothiancountry?
    The people demand answers.

    "All these subsidiary companies running only 2 routes"

    East Coast buses now running 8 routes / services, plus school buses.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  28. chdot
    Admin

    "The people demand answers."

    Hah, who listens to the people...

    Posted 7 years ago #
  29. crowriver
    Member

    "Will LB dare introduce a zone system?"

    East Coast buses already does... a, b, c, d, e, and f.

    https://eastcoastbuses.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/1704_networkmap.png

    Posted 7 years ago #
  30. neddie
    Member

    A commitment that the existing citybound bus lane is not compromised on approach to Dean Bridge

    Is that codewords for "We don't want any of those nasty segregated cycle lanes put in our way"? (Specifically, the Learmonth Tce, Oxford Tce improvements?)

    Review of parking restrictions on key arterial city routes to allow for passing places for buses

    Wait a minute, isn't that also going to allow 100s of single-occupant motorcars to pass the bus and hold it up?

    Traffic signal prioritisation at Princes Street/Queensferry Street junction and Queensferry Street/Melville Street

    So no chance of getting any priority for bikes on the Queensferry Street/Melville Street on the E-W cycle route. Back to "press button". "Wait 6 minutes," then?

    Call me cynical. I don't care.

    Posted 7 years ago #

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