http://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/cyclist-knocked-down-and-killed-at-dalmeny-junction-1-4147169
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"Cyclist knocked down and killed at Dalmeny junction"
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Posted 9 years ago #
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See that disgusting crass comment underneath?
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I thought they were supposed to turn comments off?
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They clearly deliberately leave the comments on for cycling deaths.
Someone at the EEN has already removed the "disgusting crass comment", but still left the comments on.
So, they know. But still choose to leave the comments on
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They leave comments on all road deaths these days, not just for cyclists. And it's definitely deliberate, because as edd1e_h says, they will remove some comments. I tend to tweet them about how disgraceful it is. Sometimes works.
EDIT: That's for the EEN, obviously the Scotsman is following suit.
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nice one hootsmon (not EEN sorry *edit*)
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I wonder if they leave the comments on for murder, infanticide, that kind of thing?
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The EEN version (which is the exact same story obviously) has the comments turned off. It's the Scotsman feeding the trolls this time (I can still see the crass comment).
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"I wonder if they leave the comments on for murder..."
Recently, yes. And serious assaults. Not sure about anything to do with kids (I suspect not), or rape.
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Didn't happen. He shouldn't of been riding there anyway. He didn't pay road tax.
Read more: http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/transport/cyclist-knocked-down-and-killed-at-dalmeny-junction-1-4147169#ixzz4AoAUKs00
Follow us: @TheScotsman on Twitter | TheScotsmanNewspaper on FacebookPosted 9 years ago # -
@WC:
EEN comments were on about 20 minutes ago when I tweeted Alistair Grant directly. Perhaps asking specific journalists to do something might encourage a change in policy?
And it's not just road deaths; any death is fair game for comments apparently:
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Commenting switched off on both sites now.
Posted 9 years ago # -
I think the picture of the police and the Discovery should be taken down too: there's too much information in that picture. A Google Streetview picture of the junction would be sufficient.
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Mangled wheel visible too. Can't say this doesn't give me the fear...
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Photo has been update to SUV and police and wheels. Earlier it was just the streetview picture.
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unhurt, Yes it really does give you a nasty feeling in the pit of your stomach doesn't it. I'm not sure if it's the picture in particular or just the thought of this happening to someone you might say hello to on a regular basis.
My wife heard the news and had to call to check it wasn't me. One horribly unlucky family wont be able to make such a call and will with no warning suddenly have to cope with bereavement.
I obviously don't know what happened, although I, like most cross bridge commuters know the junction well. It doesn't feel particularly dangerous but that goes to show you can never let your guard down.
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Both, I suppose. (My brother used to ride to work through the city centre when I was living up north; every time I saw an Edinburgh news item about a cyclist down I had a moment of dread.)
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I remember trying to get my brother for about two hours after reading of a fatal incident in Aberdeen, bang on his route. Thankfully I was the one who then managed to get good news.
Irrational though it was, there was one of the deaths in Edinburgh a few years back that was on my regular route. Spooked me totally, and I avoided riding that route for a good few months.
Posted 9 years ago # -
"
18-year-old man was pronounced dead at the scene. Police have closed the road as an investigation is carried out.
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http://stv.tv/news/east-central/1356553-cyclist-dies-following-collision-with-car-near-edinburgh
Posted 9 years ago # -
Awful news. I use that route a lot in roadie mode. By my reckoning that makes 3 cyclist fatalities on that road between Winchburgh and the A90 in the past few years. Pretty chastening thought .
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From my records, that means the three cyclists killed this year have all been 18 or under.
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The description of the location seems strange to me.
I was cycling from Cramon Brig to Kirkliston shortly afterwards, and there was a policeman blocking the road just after Standingstane Rd - and he was directing traffic up Standingstane Rd towards Dalmeny.
My assumption was that the incident must be further along the road towards Kirliston.
If I were to guess, maybe not far round the corner west of Standingstane Rd. (About 1m east of Kirkliston.)
Posted 9 years ago # -
I wonder how their comment-filtering works. It's possible that all comments from all articles appear in one long list which a harassed staffer has to review (possibly without enough time to do it justice).
Perhaps working out which article a comment comes from is slightly more involved, and all they have time for is to apply generic rules to each post to weed out the bad ones.
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Going by the photo, it was here.
I got that far. That's where the policeman was standing (and his car parked).
We couldn't see any signs of an accident and there was no stopped car, nor was there an ambulance.
Posted 9 years ago # -
Actually, scrap that. It was at the junction of the road up to Craigie's farm I was stopped at.
(I just turned round and went back to Edinburgh.)
Ignore me.
Posted 9 years ago # -
It's possible that all comments from all articles appear in one long list which a harassed staffer has to review
I'd imagine that the total staff count for both papers combined is about two, nowadays.
Posted 9 years ago # -
Looking at the picture on the Scotmans website it looks as if the Discovery is on the wrong side of the road?
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"Looking at the picture on the Scotmans website it looks as if the Discovery is on the wrong side of the road?"
May have swerved there. May have been the safest place to pull over to. If impact was at 50-60mph the stopping position may bear absolutely no relation to the position at the moment of the incident. I'd say we shouldn't infer anything from one photo in a newspaper.
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looks as if the Discovery is on the wrong side of the road?
What I'm seeing here is the cyclist coming down the (very) steep brae toward the junction, colliding with the Discovery which was passing the junction, which has swerved over to the other side of the road in reaction to the unexpected collision.
but that's total conjecture on my part, which I know is unhelpful and could be regarded as distasteful.
My thoughts were with the victim on this morning's commute through this area.
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