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"The electric bike is not a short-term trend"

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  1. neddie
    Member

    One last Panorama post before I sleep on it.

    There is actually a huge story here. I told the producer when I emailed.

    The wall of misinformation the press has put up around ebikes has had a profound economic effect. It has seen insurers stop covering many bike shops. No insurance, no shop.

    https://bsky.app/profile/marksuttonbike.bsky.social/post/3lf47o4j7gs2s

    Posted 1 week ago #
  2. gembo
    Member

    I am so glad I did nit watch that. Adrian Chiles emotes a certain blokiness I dont like.

    The media construct a story that for simplicity they wish to pin on a bicycle rather than on wider ills of society.

    In this instance it also suits the oil industry.

    Posted 1 week ago #
  3. chdot
    Admin

    At CES 2025 in Las Vegas, Bosch will present Battery Lock: a unique function that ensures that the e-bike battery can no longer be used if it is stolen, making it worthless to thieves.

    https://bikebiz.com/bosch-presents-ground-breaking-digital-theft-protection-for-e-bike-batteries/amp/

    Posted 1 week ago #
  4. ejstubbs
    Member

    I think It's well worth reading Mark Sutton's full article about the programme here.

    In an area which is, and has been for far too long, rife with misinformation and misunderstanding, the Panorama programme seems to have done precisely nothing to make things clearer for the general public, just picked something designed to appeal to a demographic of clickbait-driven viewers. It's as if they found a rickety bandwagon that wasn't going much of anywhere and decided to give it a good shove to see if it could be got moving.

    Posted 1 week ago #
  5. neddie
    Member

    The Bicycle Association has sent a formal complaint to the BBC about recent coverage of e-bikes and illegal e-motorbikes on the Panorama programme.

    https://bicycleassociation.org.uk/news/press-release/60/60-BA-complains-to-BBC-about-Panorama-e-bike-misrepresentation

    Posted 1 week ago #
  6. LaidBack
    Member

    @neddie Thanks for that link. A very concise response from Peter Eland. Think they should remove it from iPlayer but BBC seems to do as it likes now and will no doubt 'double down'.
    Many individuals that work for organisation of course cycle and they even have Anna Holligan with her cargo bike broadcast unit in The Hague. But much better to focus on 'who owns the streets' or whatever it was called.

    Posted 1 week ago #
  7. neddie
    Member

    I also object to the BBC doing all the pieces-to-camera-while-driving. Common on shows like Strictly. Just shows a blatant disregard to the seriousness required when driving, and to the safety of others. If they treated it as seriously as they do the "training room issues", we wouldn't be here...

    Might send the BBC a complaint about that too.

    Posted 1 week ago #
  8. Arellcat
    Moderator


    Is it the UK’s seemingly incessant rain? A poor design? Or maybe the way they are being ridden or cleaned? Why are so many owners of electric bicycles complaining that their motors need to be replaced so often?

    So if you were to ask a bearing manufacturer about lubricating a bearing operating at one tenth of its load capacity and one sixtieth of its speed limit, he would tell you merely to put a small dab of grease on once in a while. If however you told him the bearings were on a bicycle, he would probably deny all responsibility for his products, due to the special circumstances.

    This is because the problems that cycle bearings face are not so much a lack of lubrication as 'an excess of environment'. Water causes the polished surfaces to corrode. And dirt causes abrasive wear and fatigue of the hardened steel surface, as it creates small points of ultra-high pressure.

    Mike Burrows wasn't talking about the UK particularly, but the UK does seem to have an excess of water. The UK's climate being moisture-rich is also known to be a factor in the motorcycle industry, with certain component failures being an order of magnitude more common in UK bikes than USAnian bike (and yes, I'm being very broad with the specificity of "USA"). But if I'm honest, almost every e-bike I see around Edinburgh, both the personal and those under tenure of Deliverooblers, is far from spotless: they are grimy and hard-worked utility transport tools. And if the motors are wearing out prematurely too, then that is a combination of environmental conditions and under-specified design parameters. We can specify heavier duty seals and gears, use steels in place of plastics, increase motor wiring gauges and magnet sizes and controller heat management, but these add drag and/or weight and/or cost.

    Is it down to car-drivers-cum-e-bike-owners uber-excessive jet washing, treating the bike like their pride and joy car, that “must be” washed spotless every Sunday?

    There is guy in my street who really does power wash his car every week, and sometimes more often than that.

    Posted 1 week ago #
  9. chdot
    Admin

    “Is it down to car-drivers-cum-e-bike-owners uber-excessive jet washing“

    Came across this the other day -

    Power wash resistant up to 3,000 psi

    https://lanoshield.co.uk

    Bold claim(?)

    Bicycles

    LanoShield protects against rust and corrosion and is jet wash resistant to 3000psi. It means you can still wash your bike without losing protection. It is also a great lubricant so we recommend also applying it to the chain

    https://lanoshield.co.uk/domestic-uses/

    Posted 1 week ago #
  10. gembo
    Member

    Well it works for sheep

    Posted 1 week ago #
  11. chdot
    Admin

  12. neddie
    Member

    Hmmm, pretty disappointing from the Guardian. Full of tropes, anecdotal "evidence", and manufactured controversy. Ticked everything on the bingo card.

    You could switch the word "Lime" for "Cars" in the article, and all of it would still be true.

    "don't hit me" (as if people are being hit all the time)

    "I'm a driver ma sel"

    "men who smell nice" - the implication being that non-Lime cyclists smell bad

    "I’m in favour of cycling, but..."

    "won't someone think of the prams and wheelchairs"

    "Sometimes they’re quite aggressive"

    "people on their phones" (the horror!)

    "speedy"

    "I fell off once and now I always wear my HELMET!"

    "shoots through red lights"

    "wrong way down a one-way street"

    "going at 20mph, on the pavement"

    "ebikes a disease"

    "streets are cluttered with clunky ebikes"

    "standards of courteous behaviour"

    "Amsterdam, Paris"

    "low-traffic neighbourhoods... 20mph limits... low-emission zones... make enemies"

    "tribe identities"

    Posted 5 days ago #

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