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"The electric bike is not a short-term trend"

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  1. chdot
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    Eleven e-bike brands, from Brompton, Giant, Madison, Whyte, and E-bikes Direct/Evolving Sports, are the first to be publicly listed on the Bicycle Association (BA) E-bike Safety Register after passing a rigorous audit of their quality processes and policies, the BA reports.

    The brands listed are: Basis, Brompton Electric, Dallingridge, Emu, Genesis, Giant, Liv, Momentum, Ridgeback, Saracen and Whyte.

    https://bikebiz.com/bicycle-association-announces-first-e-bike-brands-listed-on-e-bike-safety-register/amp/

    Posted 4 months ago #
  2. chdot
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    Today’s riders aren’t just buying bikes, they’re investing in versatility. With the power of a battery, the modern eMTB has become the ultimate quiver killer: one bike that can do it all. Trail days, commutes, errands, even light touring, these machines are capable of far more than they’re marketed towards. And that versatility is unlocked not with a hard sell, but with a smart ask. Today’s customers are investing heavily in high-end eMTBs. These are toys, but they can also serve as tools. But often, they’re sold like one-dimensional machines, meant for the trail and nothing more. Asking a simple question can completely shift the narrative.

    https://bikebiz.com/doing-more-with-less-why-smart-sales-are-the-key-to-survival-for-bike-retailers/amp/

    Posted 2 months ago #
  3. LaidBack
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    'No one needs to carry a pallet on a bike'
    Of course many large manual cargo bikes / trikes could move a pallet easily enough a short distance on the level.
    Village very suspicious of urban toys. ;-)

    Two electric quads in use locally (non pedal ones with massive bateries).
    Most people have enough cars to do all jobs like this and more. Still it's fun having until it goes back to city!

    Posted 2 months ago #
  4. LaidBack
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    Reports coming in that UKGov will limit Cyclescheme amounts as Rachel Reeves feels that it's too costly and doesn't help 'ordinary people' (aka working people?)
    So retailers have lost the Scotland only EST 4 year Interest Free Loans and now have prospect / rumour of other finance options being limited.
    Cycle to work schemes mean retailers 'pay' 10% in commission (15% if you used Halfords).
    Maybe just a rumour but Cycling Weekly has mentioned?

    Posted 2 months ago #
  5. neddie
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    Are they also going to limit the amounts of tax lost to electric car salary sacrifice schemes? Or is it only bikes they are attacking?

    Posted 2 months ago #
  6. ejstubbs
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    Thirteen e-bikes seized during police operation in Fountainbridge

    Note that this appears to be about illegal electric motorcycles, not EAPCs, judging from the wording in the article, to whit: "offences including no insurance, no licence and no helmets" - none of which are required when riding an EAPC (as I'm sure we all knew).

    Posted 1 month ago #
  7. Arellcat
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    They can crack down harder. Just on Saturday I watched a helmetless 20-something on an electric motorcycle overtake all the traffic waiting at the red light on Drum Street and turn left onto Newtoft Street.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  8. Murun Buchstansangur
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    "Thirteen e-bikes seized during police operation in Fountainbridge"

    Delivery riders I imagine, I've never seen the Sur-Ron Young Team on Fountainbridge (well, actually I have once, but I doubt plod will be getting 13 of yon boyos in one swoop)

    I wonder (well I don't really, I know the answer) if they did anything about the plague of illegally-parked motor vehicles that block the F'bridge bike lanes, or the junction- and double-parking in the surrounding streets...

    Posted 1 month ago #
  9. chdot
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    “well I don't really, I know the answer“

    From link

    PC Bob Galbraith said: “We are committed to ensuring public safety following the concerns raised by residents regarding anti-social behaviour involving e-bike riders, particularity incidents of riding in pavements, travelling at excessive speed and causing alarm or inconvenience.

    “We continue to encourage residents to report any incidents so we can respond. Anyone with any concerns should contact Police Scotland on 101

    In short ‘we will act on the sort of complaints we like to act on. (Others too difficult or just normal behaviour by law abiding/hard pressed car owners.)

    Posted 1 month ago #
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  11. Arellcat
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    I've encountered the SRYT Massive a few times, mostly on the A701 around Liberton and on the A702 between Hillend and Fairmilehead - but that might be because I'm mostly on those routes too. They are a menace and probably just about uncatchable without a helicopter and Teledyne-FLIR's finest IR scope.

    Brazen isn't the word for it when they are wheelieing at high speed without helmets or lights past a police station.

    Posted 1 month ago #
  12. ejstubbs
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    I seem to be noticing increasing numbers of e-bike riders making brisk uphill progress (20mph in one case, so beyond the pedal assist limit anyway) without any pedal input or, as in another recent instance, with the rider turning the pedals far too slowly to be contributing any actual muscular input to the machine's sprightly uphill progress, perhaps in an attempt to disguise the fact it was in fact being driven on the throttle.

    I suspect that it's more difficult for the polis to justify stopping offenders of this nature, compared to those committing obvious road traffic offences like wheelying around at illegal speeds on city centre streets.

    (I think I even saw a recumbent being ridden uphill with no pedalling going on yesterday. It certainly had what looked like a motor in the front wheel, and my perception at the time was that the gradient was too steep and the forward motion too sustained to have been achieved by freewheeling from a previous descent. Then again, I've no experience of how recumbents handle, and it might have been a drum brake. Are such things common on recumbents?)

    Posted 1 month ago #
  13. neddie
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    I don't think there's any specific traffic offence of "wheelying". Maybe it could be caught under "not being in full control of a motor vehicle". But then most motorbike wheelies I've seen, they have control, and many bikes have electronic "automatic wheelie" (and stoppie) functions

    Posted 1 month ago #
  14. ejstubbs
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    I don't think there's any specific traffic offence of "wheelying".

    That is correct. However, a brief online search indicates that pulling wheelies on a motorcycle in a public place (including publicly accessible places like supermarket car parks) has in the past resulted in prosecution for dangerous driving. Which should probably not come as a huge surprise.

    See also MCN's summary: https://archive.is/tYmEt (which also covers "getting your knee down")

    Posted 1 month ago #
  15. chdot
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    The bike, launched at Eurobike, weighs 17 kg (electric) or approx. 13 kg (non-electric version),

    https://bikebiz.com/velo-de-ville-presents-the-foldy/amp/

    Posted 1 month ago #
  16. LaidBack
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    Velo de Ville Foldy. 17kg because battery is only 170Wh - under half the size of average.
    Then again you're only cycling from car or train maybe a few miles. But will people pay £2600 for such a low range folder? Who knows!

    Posted 1 month ago #
  17. chdot
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  18. chdot
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    “For things to really change you need strong, consistent political leadership over a sustained period of time,” a senior figure in the cycle policy world says. “If you have consistent investment you can also attract and keep the talent and skills you need to make cycling work in somewhere as ancient and tightly packed as London. These people aren’t easy to find.”

    This year, Germany, France, the Netherlands and Spain will sell more than 5m electric bikes between them. We’ll be lucky if we sell 150,000
    Phillip Darnton, Bicycle Association
    London does, of course, also have a concentrated population and disincentives to driving, including the congestion charge and a network of low-traffic neighbourhoods in many boroughs.

    As anyone who has been in London recently will know, as well as growing in size, the swarms of cyclists are also changing in type, including more people on electric-assist bikes, including hire versions such as the ubiquitous Lime models.

    Within this are a distinct breed of machine: often startlingly rapid electric contraptions powered by vast rear-wheel hub motors and a collection of zip-tied batteries, many ridden by gig economy riders for delivery companies. These are not ebikes, which are strictly defined by law. They are in effect a form of electric motorbike, entirely illegal but rarely challenged by police.

    “It’s a massive image problem for cycling because more or less everyone conflates the two things,” Tranter says. “You could tackle this more or less overnight by forcing delivery companies to make checks, for example monitoring riders’ speeds. But it seems we’d rather just moan about it.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/news/2025/dec/21/cycling-changing-at-speed-britain-keeping-pace

    Posted 1 month ago #

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