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Audax + sportives 2017

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  • Started 8 years ago by chdot
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  1. Greenroofer
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    I've bought a book Ultra-Distance Cycling. I like it. It says things like 'Because you are able to ride distances most find incomprehensible, you get to see a significant amount of an area in a very short space of time. You become more than simply an athlete; you also become an aesthete, attuned to the beauty of the world around you.'

    Later one of the authors says 'I had become extremely good at riding slowly. I learned to ride a very long way on insufficient food and often ended up feeling sick'. This is exactly how I'm performing at present. I'm working through their nutrition and training advice, but wonder what works for you and how you learned to ride a long way fast.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  2. fimm
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  3. amir
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    Thanks for inserting this in the right place, fimm

    @Greenroofer just noticed your query on eating above. On longer rides I can't cope with too much sweet stuff. So I dilute the drink more and eat more savoury stuff. It's best to eat less complex food that's hard to digest, smaller portions but more frequently I think. Mainly because the system struggles to do both exercise and digestion at the same time.

    I cannot say much about speed as I am slowing down quite a lot these days. I think that is partly down to long distance riding and partly due to reaching a critical age. I believe that to increase speed (even for long rides) you have to focus more on shorter rides with intervals. But for me that contradicts somewhat the reason I cycle (which is to tune out and enjoy the scenery and exercise). I did speed up quite a bit when I joined in the ERC group rides on Saturdays. But I no longer find riding in a close group of people I don't really know much fun (I'm a bit more feart these days)

    Posted 6 years ago #
  4. crowriver
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    @amir, yes that all sounds familiar.

    One of the reasons I took a (long) hiatus from audax was just not being able to keep up the pace consistently, getting slower during the course of a ride. Age seems to be a factor for sure. For me, fitness/weight issues a distinct but related factor.

    Still hoping to try some audaxes again once the days are longer mind you (and once my bike is back in operation).

    On diet, I can't really advise on the very long rides (over 300k). One thing that does seem to work for me is trying to eat normal food at some point. Could be as simple as soup and a roll.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  5. amir
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    Soup is good - especially with sweet potato or the like

    Posted 6 years ago #
  6. Cyclingmollie
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    @crowriver, for me it's not just getting slower but also feeling the cold more. Two things I'm going to try to do this year:

    Eat and drink more hot things to stay warmer, especially soup.

    Taking a change of base layer with me. Even pure merino wool base layers seem to promote cooling once you stop exercising hard.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  7. ARobComp
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    While it's a bit of time since I did super long stuff but I'm still quite capable of pushing out 100+miles if needed. I think the main thing I learned nutrition wise is same as above - normal food as often as you can and little things every now and again.

    For mid distance stuff (like 200s I did last year) I've had a few Lucho Dillitos in my jersey. Little Columbian energy snacks which I've found to not be as sickly or sticky as gels, not as bad for the stomach as energy drinks etc, and the packaging is biodegradable!

    Well worth trying if you often struggle.

    Finally there is the old "Audax rocket fuel" which I learned on a particularly harrowing loop of Forth and Tay. Can of coke into your bidon and top up with water. Only to be used in dire circumstances.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  8. crowriver
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    "Audax rocket fuel" - I saw a variant of this on a Highland 200 once. Strawberry milk! I suppose the idea there is it's got sugar for quick release energy, fat for slow release, protein for muscles and it re-hydrates you.

    I have tried it occasionally but only as a last resort! (Other flavours are available, though chocolate is a no for me).

    "feeling the cold more"

    Oddly I've rarely had this issue, despite once successfully completing RRTY (though it was quite mild winter). I think I tend to over-dress in general, and end up carrying the extra layers I've peeled off as I heat up strapped to the saddle bag...

    Motorbiker base layers and decent socks kept me pretty toasty on winter rides.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  9. paddyirish
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    @crowriver - your last resort is my first...

    I only ever drink black coffee, except on Audaxes- a milky mocha (often from a corner store) seems to serve me well - warm, sweet and some milk/fat as well.

    Cheapest audax was a 100km where I got a knockdown soreen malt loaf the night before for 20p. Only "needed" about 1/2 of it.

    First audax was Crystal Run- enjoyed the pork pies provided at the van, but paid by a lack of fitness by coming to a halt about 15km from the finish after battling a strong headwind. A can of coke and a mars bar from the local garage got me to the end, but I felt awful after it...

    Posted 6 years ago #
  10. crowriver
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    "First audax was Crystal Run"

    Oof! That's not an easy one!

    "your last resort is my first..."

    Takes all sorts. Sweetened milk is good if you're running low on energy. More slow burn than cola, energy drinks or jelly babies (other jelly sweets are available - wine gums are my fave). Only issue with milk based products is possible digestive malfunctions or discomfort...

    Seems to me that the real audaxers* are not only very tough with incredible stamina and little need for sleep, but they have cast iron stomachs too! (For the avoidance of doubt, I don't make any claim to be one).

    * - Or randonneurs if you prefer. Sounds more sophisticated.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  11. acsimpson
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    Better late than never. Here's my write up on last years Borders of Fife.

    C is for Century

    Posted 6 years ago #
  12. Murun Buchstansangur
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