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Ever had a problem with bin lorries?

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  1. crowriver
    Member

    "Haven't the council started charging for every 'special uplift' now, whereas you used to get a couple of uplifts for free each year?"

    Indeed, that started years ago. £15 I think. Must confess I haven't used the special uplift service since they started charging.

    I must say though, that anything half decent that gets put out in our street soon disappears. There's a kind of informal re-use/recycling system going on, and most residents seem to understand that, as do various 'characters' in beaten up old vans who trawl the streets, rake in skips, bins, etc. for anything they can salvage for scrap or re-sale. So it's not all bad...

    Posted 7 years ago #
  2. chdot
    Admin

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    Over the past 24 hours we have been inundated with snaps showing the shocking extent of the problem, from litter-strewn pavements to bursting bags piled high beside communal bins.

    Councillor Lesley Hinds, the city’s environment leader, said she would act on images brought to her attention – and “look to see what action can be taken to ensure it does not happen again”.

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    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/council-vows-to-take-action-on-rubbish-following-evening-news-pledge-1-4224498

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    and “look to see what action can be taken to ensure it does not happen again”.

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    Well yes, obviously she's said similar many times.

    As has been pointed out up thread, a real problem is 'behaviour' - probably more of the public than the CEC workers.

    Obviously it ought to be possible for the bin people to do their routes without forgetting a bin or leaving mess.

    There used to be a system where another vehicle and more people followed the bin lorry to deal with spillages. - obviously not cheap.

    Clearly the 'balance' between buying/discarding too much stuff/filling the bins 'properly'/ emptying before they are too full (recycling bins too) is not being achieved - but it's not simple. Apart from 'more rubbish after Christmas' there is obviously a lot of randomness to when extra/large amounts of unwanted things appear in any particular street.

    LAs are under all sorts of pressure - not least because of the council tax freeze. On the face of it the refuse collection system needs improving, and educating the public is hard going.

    It might well be that more money needs to be put into 'cleansing' (as it used to be called).

    So, cuts somewhere or higher Council Tax?

    Perhaps LH and AB are leaving politics because of refuse grief not cycling grief!

    Posted 7 years ago #
  3. jdanielp
    Member

    One of the bin lorries that comes to Heriot-Watt is quite terrifying. It is a full size lorry operated entirely by the driver from the cab. Various bins are dotted around the campus, usually on the far side of pavements, which the lorry picks up by lowering a two-pronged lifting arm, driving straight up to the bin to insert the prongs and then levering the bin over the back of the cab to empty the rubbish into the compactor from the top. The massive bin is then deposited back onto the ground and the driver reverses away. I'm glad not to see these lorries in town. It is something along the lines of the following model:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garbage_truck#/media/File:Scaniafrontloader.JPG

    Posted 7 years ago #
  4. chdot
    Admin

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    The most basic of services, though, is surely the collection of waste. The decanting of our detritus. The emptying of our bins. What could be more straightforward than the regular collection of a wheelie bin, placed in the correct position at the back end of a bin lorry so that it is raised aloft, turned upside down and emptied into the yawning chasm of refuse below? Then it should be replaced on the ground and wheeled back to its original position. Simple.

    And yet in Edinburgh it seems to be far from straightforward. Complaints about bin collections have soared - between July last year and this there was a complaint every ten minutes, day and night on average - the council’s Twitter feed is full of photos of overflowing communal bins which seem to have lain unemptied for weeks, with litter surrounding them on the ground like rotting confetti.

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    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/opinion/gina-davidson-coalition-can-expect-a-rubbish-election-result-1-4224827

    Posted 7 years ago #
  5. chdot
    Admin

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    CRACK team of council enforcers has been set up in an attempt to combat the scourge of illegal waste dumping by businesses.

    Five specialist wardens and a team leader will inspect shops and dish out £200 fines to those caught chucking their rubbish on the street.

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    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/our-region/edinburgh/edinburgh-council-team-to-fight-fly-tipping-by-businesses-1-4226134

    Posted 7 years ago #
  6. jdanielp
    Member

    Ok, but why didn't they set up a team of enforcers when they introducted these restrictions in the first place?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  7. Klaxon
    Member

    There's a point where you need to test the water for the balance of compliance vs enforcement. Looks like we found the line...

    Posted 7 years ago #
  8. chdot
    Admin

  9. chdot
    Admin

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    Unite has told Edinburgh Council bosses to stop attacking the city’s refuse workers, blasting "savage cuts" inflicted on staff in recent years.

    The union is meeting with council mangers today to present research showing that the council’s environmental service is underfunded to the tune of about £17 million.

    And they will demand that council members stop "scapegoating workers" for the effects of massive council cuts.

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    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/union-blasts-council-over-bin-collection-cuts-1-4236276

    Posted 7 years ago #
  10. gembo
    Member

    Just spilt my coffee all over the ledge I prop it on (white with wee white wall underneath) reading that piece.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  11. chdot
    Admin

  12. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-37573976

    Not quite sure what is going on with the photo on this article - either an demonstration of (a) the long-held and cherished tradition of bin lorry drivers trying to murder cyclists, or (b) the vehicle's blind spots. Hopefully the latter.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  13. Frenchy
    Member

    Passenger looks nice and safe too.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  14. crowriver
    Member

    Yeah, looks a bit scary! At least there are no guardrails adjacent to the road for the cyclist to be crushed against...

    Posted 7 years ago #
  15. chdot
    Admin

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    So the existing 7.5 tonne vehicles will be replaced with hired 10 tonne vehicles as an interim solution pending the arrival of new 12 tonne vehicles in May next year.

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    http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/council-draws-up-65-point-action-plan-to-clean-up-city-streets-1-4269444

    Presume CEC has ordered ones with 'best' cab visibility, cameras etc(?)

    Posted 7 years ago #
  16. wingpig
    Member

    I was up at the transport museum in Dundee last week and there was a old (mid-20th-century-looking) truck there which had an extra window at knee-height in front of the cab door, presumably for avoiding the huge masses of cyclists who had yet to achieve their aspirations of car ownership at the time.

    Posted 7 years ago #
  17. SRD
    Moderator

    not sure whether to put this in 'rubbish driving' or here...

    Had a terrifying encounter with a 'Biffa' lorry PN63 VUU today. I was heading up Lauriston Place, through junction with Chalmers St just before 1pm. As I passed Keir St, a lorry heading in the direction of Tollcross veered across the street at top speed towards me. It then pulled some sort of turning maneuvre so that it turned across the junction so that it was briefly heading down Chalmer st,, blocking everything and then began reversing into Keir St. All done at top speed - no doubt because of all the traffic they were blocking, but bloody terrifying for anyone on foot or bike.

    When you think of the numbers of school kids, and visually impaired/elderly folk who use those streets, it seems even more reckless.

    I suppose it must be a private contractor and no point in trying to report it to anyone?

    Posted 7 years ago #
  18. Frenchy
    Member

    I suppose it must be a private contractor and no point in trying to report it to anyone?

    One way to find out ;)

    Posted 7 years ago #
  19. chdot
    Admin

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    Cycling Edinburgh (@CyclingEdin)
    28/11/2016, 14:30
    @BiffaService if this is one of yours, would you like to comment? (And investigate?)

    citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.…

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    Posted 7 years ago #
  20. chdot
    Admin

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    BiffaService (@BiffaService)
    28/11/2016, 16:30
    @CyclingEdin Hi, thank you for bringing this to our attention. This is now being investigate as an absolute priority. Many thanks,

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    Posted 7 years ago #
  21. chdot
    Admin

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    @CyclingEdin Good morning. This has been passed to the local depot manager and a full investigation is currently underway. Kind regards

    9:07 am · 30 Nov 2016

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    https://twitter.com/biffaservice/status/803888260770656256

    Posted 7 years ago #
  22. chdot
    Admin

    SRD you are not alone!

    See third post on this thread -

    http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=16824#post-229691

    Posted 7 years ago #

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