Just trying to narrow things down a tad
Yeah thats the one.
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Worst road surfaces for cycling
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thanks Steveo, Nice farm - farnmer has built his or herself a wind turbine, only covers the road in mud about once a year. Lovely horses and of course cattle. What is the difference between cattle and cows?
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What is the difference between cattle and cows?
The difference is mostly bullocks I should think.
There are cattle in some of the fields near my favourite hideaway and they're all bullocks, not a cow in sight. They spend most of their time together in a group, they're very social.
Posted 7 years ago # -
Commercial St, west bound between WoL and Ocean Drive - impossible to actually ride in the cycle lane.
Cows - generical female term, but specifically ones who have calved, before that they are heifers.
Cattle - a herd, not gender specific.
i come from farming stock.
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before that they are heifers
I didn't know that but do now - once again CCE makes my life richer and better! Thanks
Posted 7 years ago # -
Is stot/stott a word found all around Scotland, or just in the north east?
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@Frenchy, stott meaning what?
My grandmother, from near Kilmarnock originally, used to describe herself as "stotty" when she was feeling a bit unsteady on her feet - the word actually implying drunkeness I believe (granny didn't drink...).
I've also read it being used to mean "to bounce a ball" IIRC.Posted 7 years ago # -
@Frenchy, you mean as in a stot-sticker - a slaughterer of cattle? Never heard of that until now. Though my head did Stot off a speedbump near Murrayfield on ice one winter.
cows collectively.
"the lowing kine came home at twilight"
is known to me
also stirk as in bullock
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Aye, a stot is a young bull, possibly needs to be castrated to be a stot.
I never heard the word kye until I read Sunset Song. Beasts was the plural I grew up with. Pronounced without the t, so it rhymes with "geese". Could be spelled beese too.
EDIT: Definitely also a verb, with all the meanings posted already (bounce, stagger etc.)
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@fimm My wife uses "stotting" to mean walking in a somewhat ungainly fashion. Or sometimes just "wandering about rather aimlessly".
To haul the thread back on topic, two nominations. The first is so obvious I can't believe it's not been mentioned yet: Oswald Road. It has had a few patches in the last year or so but any improvement is barely noticeable. The real problem is the profile as the road passes over the railway: that needs smoothing out heading southbound, it can kick a wheel almost off the ground just at the point where you actually want good traction as you begin to brake for the steep slope on the other side.
The second is closer to home and closer to my heart: Caiystane Crescent, mainly between West Caiystane Road and East Caiystane Place (which is west of West Caiystane Road - go figure). The top dressing on the westbound side is very badly eroded, leaving a surface of protruding stones which is incredibly hard work to cycle over. Worse is that there's a longitudinal step down the middle of the carriageway of up to at least an inch and half, probably more, for most of the length of that section, which can easily have you over. I don't even like riding close to it on my motorbike. I've reported it but nothing's been done. I may have to fall off and make a claim before anything is.
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Reminds me years ago of cycling through the flatlands of Cuba and seeing huge herds of cows in a field. "oh wow" I exclaimed, "this must be one of Fidels famous nationalised Dairy Farms". We continued cycling to see the huge sign that read (in Spanish of course).
"Che Guevara Artificial Insemination Plant"
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which is west of West Caiystane Road - go figure
There is some logic to it. The Roads are to the east, and the Places are to the west.
I believe that in the original feuing they planned to have a West Camus Place and West Caiystane Place. Development of Camus and Caiystane proceeded westwards from the A702 until about 1958, while at the same time south-east Oxgangs, and Caiystane Terrace were expanding to the east. There was provision for another north-south road.
By 1962 the two developments were connected, and that north-south road became the single thoroughfare of Caiystane Hill. I still don't know why Camus Park was created as a cul-de-sac, connected only by a footway to the bottom of Caiystane Hill, rather than the latter forming the entire route, but reducing the amount of traffic might have been the reason, to improve the ambience of Comiston House, which by the 1940s had become the Pentland Hills Hotel.
Sorry, bit of thread drift there.
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Sorry, bit of thread drift there.
Indeed, your post has absolutely nothing to do with cattle. Unless the "Caiy" in Caiystane is etymologically related to "kye"?
Edit: An oxgang is the area which a single ox could plough in a season, so I think we can consider that on-topic after all.
Posted 7 years ago # -
Currently Craigcrook Road, it's like a gravel track in Alaska. I hope they reinstate some decent cycle lanes!
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Add to Craigcrook, East Fettes Ave and Glenogle Rd, both of which have been covered in a very cheap "tar & stones" top dressing, the sort normally reserved for remote rural roads.
Stones sticking all over your tyres, splashing up sticky tar on your frame, mudguards, trousers... AVOID AVOID
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Yes, a lot of rough patches on Glenogle Rd were white-marked last week, and they've been relaid just today, not always very well - the poor (or no) sealing round the edges will surely let in water and cause them to fall apart again soon - and a large area has been indiscriminately covered with loose fine gravel, all over the road and spreading onto the pavements.
Posted 7 years ago # -
Holyrood Park Road after Markon have covered it with an inch of loose chippings.
Adds a certain frisson of danger (and clouds of dust) to my trip to the pool every morning from now on.
Posted 7 years ago # -
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A DUST cloud from road resurfacing work has re-appeared over Ravelston, sparking concern among residents.
The Evening News reported last August how work to make city roads more skid resistant had left locals fuming.
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The work is expected to finish today with 23 streets resurfaced covering 80,000 square metres – roughly the size of Buckingham Palace.
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I'm a bit puzzled why (as of this morning anyway) the absolutely worst bit of Ravelston Dykes hasn't been done (while all the rest has). It's just at the end of Lennel Av and the surface is horrendous. Perhaps they have decided it's too badly gone to top dress and are going to do a proper job.
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Tar and chip surface dressing just laid on Burnshot Road from the flyover to the entrance to Craigiehall. Anticipating the job will be extended to Craigie's Farm. Short term unpleasantness shouldn't outweigh improvement to previous crappy moon pocked road surface
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@Frenchy, it's the bit from Lennel Av to Succoth Park that I'm meaning. Hope that it's been done today then! They've done the other bits I think.
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West bound on West Coates is pretty crap as well, and that's a major thoroughfare.
Posted 7 years ago # -
Comiston Road to be resurfaced (inc. bottom of Morningside Road).
"from the junction of Maxwell Street down to just before the junction with Comiston Drive".
Looks like southbound traffic will be diverted up Braid Road for a period.
Posted 7 years ago # -
Can I bump Gilmore Place? ow!
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"Can I bump Gilmore Place?"
You don't need to, it's already all bumps.
Posted 7 years ago # -
bullocks
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Glenogle Road has been freshly re-chipped, but undulates very uncomfortably.
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I think we may have a winner (descriptions of the A710 approach to Edinburgh from various LEL 2017 blogs):
Terrible road. Everything was ratting and shaking. I saw one poor rider on the side of the road searching frantically for his garmin that shaken off his bike. I saw him again just before the control. No luck.
My attachmnet on my handlebar which held my garmin, spare light attachment and bell also managed to rattle it self into a useless state. (Link)But then, when I hit the A701 heading towards Edinburgh, the ride turns to s–t. The surface is so bad that I can’t find words to describe it. With every turn of the wheels my hands feel as though they are being pummelled with rocks. (Link)
It was noticeable how different the road surfaces were in Scotland compared to England, the tarmac in Scotland is mostly rough and the vibrations were starting to take their toll on my body. My hands were now covered in blisters and my right knee was starting to ache. (Link)
The road surface shook the fillings out of our teeth.(Link)
A long gradual descent into Edinburgh which should have been a joy except for the road surface which was APPALLING and almost unrideable in places, I swore to myself almost constantly along here, I started shouting “FFS fix your roads” to random passers by. (Link)
What wasn’t so nice was the road surface, corrugated like the surface of a concrete brain. (Link)
Posted 7 years ago # -
I totally understand the comments from the LEL participants.i'm not long back from my annual cycling holiday in rural France and their roads are just so much more pleasant to ride on (not just the traffic volume)
Locally, Harlaw Road from Balerno still continues to take the prize as far as I'm concerned for the crappiest surface, especially on the descent from Harlaw to Balerno at the line of houses. I have to double check everything is still in place after doing that one. It is just so bad!!Inexcusable for the capital of Scotland.Posted 7 years ago #
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