@steveo, I presume that is a quote? Where from? Do you have a link you can share?
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"Holiday Flats Edinburgh's Ruin"
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Ejit. Forgot the link...
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In the same vein of slow tourism:
http://pathlesspedaled.com/2011/08/economics-of-bike-touring/
Robert
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@steveo - Hm. What this marketing brand seems to wanting is to commodify, package and re-sell the kinds of things that independent walkers, backpackers, bushcrafting types, and cyclists do already. Then attract an "affluent urban consumer base" to presumably pay a premium for a "more authentic and immersive experiences.", possibly in the off season.
So it will not solve the problems identified of (motorised) bucket list tourists zooming around taking selfies at all the major landmarks. Rather, it will exacerbate over tourism by filling even more of the year with themed "slow adventure" activities, thus making even "wilder and unspoilt areas" busy with (well heeled) tourists for much of the year.
I can see how that is of economic "benefit" to locals: primarily landowners, accommodation providers and tourist activity organisers. However it will also make it more and more difficult to find any solitude or peace in Scotland, even in those "wilder and unspoilt areas", i.e. they will be spoilt...
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Andy Wightman is tweeting a PDF of the legality of key boxes on tenement walls.
'And the sign said, "The words of the prophets
Are written on the subway walls
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Useful but surprisingly inconclusive.
Highlights that the places where many boxes are fitted is communally owned by all flats in stair and ‘alteration’ has to be agreed.
But also says even if additions are ‘unauthorised’, you can’t just remove them...
I never understand why you don’t see more smashed ones - either by ‘irate neighbours’ or people wanting keys for the purpose of burglary.
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@chdot - They are extremely sturdy things.
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They are extremely sturdy things.
If I were minded to vandalise one, I'd probably use superglue rather than a hammer.
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Just a tweet so far:-
Edinburgh plumps for £2 a night Tourist tax - to be discussed by council at their meeting on 7 February - more soon.
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@Frenchy Crime drama about the Serial Supergluer. Left his fingers as well as the prints...
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I suspect that the dog urine will eventually corrode the ones attached to padlocked chains around the bottom of lamp-posts etc.
I'm sure opening them to get the keys is a treat in itself.
(Noticed a few new keysafes on the chain fencing at the edge of the WoL outside Crolla's Gelateria at Coalhill at the weekend too)
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“They are extremely sturdy things.”
Presume so. Maybe I’m just thinking about how easily parking meters used to break (not me).
Less sure about fixing into various sandstones.
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I'd be interested to know if an Edinburgh resident who had to decant while work was done in their house would be expected to pay a visitor levy. Anybody know how it works elsewhere?
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Edinburgh's proposal is "capped at 7 consecutive nights". So depending on how you read that, it's max £14 or zero for 7+ nights. If you know builders who can reliably complete jobs in <7 days, please let me know their details :)
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Max £14 is how I read it.
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Andy Wightman quote worth repeating here:
“Data is key to understanding what’s going on - and we don’t properly understand that so we will be launching soon a pilot, crowd-sourcing initiative online which will be inviting people to report the number and location of commercial short-term lets right across the city.
“Through social media we think we can reach large numbers of people. We will run the pilot for six weeks or so and then launch it properly.
“We think we can probably get 90 per cent of the data within a year. That relies on people who live in tenements knowing what’s going on in their stair, as most of them do, and reporting it to us.”
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Good old Andy. On the ball
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A pal who lets out her place on airbnb has been having problems finding guests. She thinks that the market is saturated and people are undercutting each other.
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"A pal who lets out her place on airbnb has been having problems finding guests. She thinks that the market is saturated and people are undercutting each other".
It depends.
It's a quiet time of year for Airbnb type holidays which are mostly short break.
Also, regarding the price issue - many Airbnb rental co's use dynamic pricing software which drops prices for slack periods.
The converse is true during July,Aug, Sept and Christmas, New Year of course.
If your pal assumes full occupation and consistent pricing, I don't think she has thought it all through.
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"It's a quiet time of year for Airbnb type holidays"
That may be true, but in the past few weeks I've noticed the groups of tourists heading to Rabbie's tour minibuses on Waterloo Place have been steadily growing in size. At the start of school half term, despite unusually quiet streets in general, a column of tour coaches was parked up on Regent Road all day Saturday 9th (I know there was a rugby international on that day, but surely wrong end of town?). Also quite a large number of tourists milling around just outside the Radisson on Niddry Street last night.
So, after a brief respite in January, it has started again...
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Kezia Dugdale on Twitter:-
Dear Edinburgh residents, AirBNB are love bombing your Lothian MSPs with stories about how great they are - now is a good time to share your horror stories of living next door to party flats and holiday let’s if you want better regulation
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Those offices must have been flats at some point but obviously we are at peak air Bnb.
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What the Airbnb surge means for UK cities
Edinburgh's 12,000 listings work out to around one Airbnb listing for every 42 residents, while London's Airbnb market equates to one listing per 112 residents.
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"Short term lets are having a terrible impact. They are hollowing out communities, both in the city centre and increasingly across Edinburgh. Residents are putting up with high levels of anti-social behaviour and, very worryingly for us, we believe there is a huge impact on housing supply," said Councillor Kate Campbell (SNP), housing convenor at Edinburgh City Council.
"Housing in Edinburgh is under enormous pressure and we need to take every action we can to protect supply and keep homes affordable for residents, as well as protecting communities."
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[Airbnb] argued that its growth had little effect on the availability of homes for locals to buy or rent, highlighting various studies which had shown that house building had not kept up with demand, and had pushed up prices as a result.
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Schiphol airport’s capacity is to be capped and passenger vessels are to be moved out of the city’s centre.
If Amsterdam can do it, I'd have thought that Venice could too. If it really wanted to.
The tourist board in the bulb region of the Netherlands has had to start fencing in fields of tulips due to damage created by the scourge of selfie-seeking tourists.
What? You mean that selfie-seeking tourists aren't a good thing?
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