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Just so I've got this right....
You don't speed up, or move to one side when someone wants to go faster than you.
You deliberately stop to force them to stop at the most awkward bit of the path for traffic coming either way.
You then speed up to faster then the speed he wanted you to go at?
And the 'bum tinkler' winds you up?
this morning the person in front of me rang bell on bike and it was a very sonorous tung a lung a ding ding dong sound.
When we came round the corner of the bridge there was a ped standing out the way with a very broad grin.
I said to the cyclist in front as I overtook them That is a cheery bell [this did not elicit a response]
A small number of bell ringers are saying get out the way I am coming through as they ring their bells.
Almost all bell ringers are just saying Hello I am here I can't see what is round the corner (you often get a ting back and everyone is prepared) Or you are letting the peds know you are coming past, no aggro, nice and slowly just don't make a sudden lurch to the side.
Obviously I like a bell. Some others seem to be bell phobic?
@gembo
you often get a ting back and everyone is prepared
I got involved in a stand-off at Bridge Nine once. Both of us plaintively tinging the other to proceed. Must have had equal levels of dominance/submission hormones. Went on for ages and was very funny when we both snouted round the parapet at the same moment.
Just so I've got this right....
You don't speed up, or move to one side when someone wants to go faster than you.
You deliberately stop to force them to stop at the most awkward bit of the path for traffic coming either way.
You then speed up to faster then the speed he wanted you to go at?
And the 'bum tinkler' winds you up?
If someone wants to go faster than me that's just fine. Instead what seems to happen is that I am much (much) faster but when it comes to the obstacles I go a lot more carefully than the two-tings-no-brakes brigade. Hence the bum tinkling opportunity for the odd Captain Commuter.
I have a rear-facing camera these days. I'll try to remember if I get a good example to download the footage.
"the two-tings-no-brakes brigade"
I feel I am being unfairly tarred here :)
This is what I love about Britain, we can create a class system out of anything - even bike bell ringing etiquette.
Hell mend anyone getting above their station though - CCTV will be deployed!
I'm with Dave here the aggressive bell brigade on the canal are seriously annoying however your trying to get by.
My view is that there are more polite, sonorous, jolly bells than aggressive.
Some were mathematicians, some were carpenters' wives
My favorite bell anecdote. NEPN Canonmills.
1st woman pedestrian. 'Thanks very much for letting us know you were there. So many cyclists just shoot straight past us'.
50 yards later: 2nd male pedestrian 'Ting ting yerself pal'
My view is that there are more polite, sonorous, jolly bells than aggressive.
Some were mathematicians, some were carpenters' wives
Bells, bell***s and belles?
Nearly had a head-on, on a straight bit of the towpath this morning.
One of those bum-tinger* racing turnips who thought is was fine to follow the cyclist in front and continue his overtake of a pedestrian into oncoming traffic (me).
Full drogue chutes deployed etc.
*Although he didn't actually ting.
If someone wants to go faster than me that's just fine. Instead what seems to happen is that I am much (much) faster but when it comes to the obstacles I go a lot more carefully than the two-tings-no-brakes brigade. Hence the bum tinkling opportunity for the odd Captain Commuter.
What I don't understand from this story is how you can tell that he is ringing his bell at you rather than warning people coming in the other direction the there are two bikes coming through the bridge.
"What I don't understand from this story is how you can tell that he is ringing his bell at you rather than warning people coming in the other direction the there are two bikes coming through the bridge."
#you're so vain, you probably think this ting is about you#
Intrigued to see the video of aggressive directed tinging.
I love bells so much I have left them on my summer and winter road bikes. Causes mirth in the peloton if a wee kid is waving at us and I give them a friendly ting. Obviously everyone else has removed theirs. This extra weight maybe explains my next to the broom wagon finishes?
"This extra weight maybe explains my next to the broom wagon finishes?"
More likely all those apple pies...
It might be hard to define bum tinkling, but I know it when I see it :)
Horn-It that can play very loud, very real MP3 sound files
Really? So you don't have to have that insanely loud wii-wii-wii-wii sound?
I have no idea what bum tinkling is. Is it that noise you get when you're wearing gloves and you can't ping the pinger properly?
Really? So you don't have to have that insanely loud wii-wii-wii-wii sound?
So the guy told me. Showed me a few other noises. Seemed to work like phone ring-tones.
"It might be hard to define bum tinkling, but I know it when I see it :) "
I'm assuming we will too when we see the video...
Altercation - this morning. Cyclist in black and blue lycra in ASL on Harrison Road at the Harrison Road/Slateford Road junction. Yelling blue murder at a car which had its nose halfway along the ASL. Didn't see what evil the car (sorry car driver) had done. Was it mere territorial infringement? Or actual close-to-you menace?
I'd forgotten all about this thread! Looks like I never did post a bum tinkler video for WC. Sadly I don't have a spare camera to mount rearward these days :)
How did I miss this thread first time round? Bum tinklers lol. We could also have crabbity freewheel buzzers, gopro gotchas, irksome wobblers and sudden brakers. Salmon and scalpers already exist.
@Cyclingmollie I'm the sudden braker champion, I'm afraid.
Yes Rosie, I think I am a bum tinkler - for the best of reasons of course, following people who don't have bells.
I've not been on the canal so much of late but don't recall any bum tinkling either. Maybe because I'm on the road bike so even faster or something?
Overgrown greenery is the main moaning point these days.
"This is what I love about Britain, we can create a class system out of anything - even bike bell ringing etiquette."
I tend to think it's rather the other way round: the class system dictates the appropriateness of the etiquette. It is when there is a mismatch between appropriate etiquette that we get conflict, as it reveals the mismatch between the classes, and by inference, the power relations between them.
@Dave, I'm using that Captain Commuter moniker - definitely describes a type of "watch out, I'm in a hurry" type...
@crowriver - yes, like when you nearly get hospitalised by a driver then they go mental because you swore at them.
i heard some research last month, that the sound which is best at getting people's attention without offending or frightening them is a duck's quack.
does anyone make a quacking bike bell?
At the Canuck, I sometimes say wack wack to the duckies at Harrison gdns. But what you need is a hunter's quacker. Authentic duck sound even to ducks? Definite niche in the market. You would wear it round your neck and quack away on the canal towpath getting much attention from humans, canines and duckies. But maybe no market in the niche?
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