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  1. gembo
    Member

    Following a suggestion by CHdot on another string which was about budget cuts [but had an aside about people hiding behind nicknames or whatever - mentchies being my favourite word for such heteronyms - as a further digression, I am writing as Martin not Gembo here, - the great Portuguese Poet Fernando Pessoa had at least 72 heteronyms which were basically other poets who lived inside him - Ricardo Reis being the most famous but also Alvaro do Campos and a much more minor poet Alexander Self who was Scottish. In the novel by Jose Saramago - A Year In the Death of Ricardo Reis - Pessoa himself has died and Reis comes back to Lisbon from Brazil where he has been working as a doctor to pay his respects. The little statue of Pessoa in the Barrio Alto in Lisbon is identical to the one of Joyce on O'Connell St in Dublin.

    Having set this context I would set out my view of the difference between Martin and Gembo. Martin is a fairly smug cyclist, he thinks he has cracked keeping fit and commuting to work. When he gets home he is not looking to avoid parental reponsibilities too much by having to go to the gym. He is pissed off that his office has moved five miles nearer to home but glad he still has an office. Gembo, though, he is slightly more manic and is easily wound up when he detects smugness in cyclists. Gembo doesn't think cyclists have any greater take on the world than anyone else (Martin does). Martin benefits from info posted by 'experts' on this forum. Gembo is more of a wind up merchant.

    Posted 14 years ago #
  2. wee folding bike
    Member

    I only use a pseudonym because using a real name could cause trouble up 't mill.

    I'm just as pro bicycle in real life. My Facebook status for today says:

    Tryg uden hjelm

    and it is often other bicycle related topics (or lyrics from the '80s)

    Yesterday I attended a crematorium and I didn't go by car. Now, some people might have found that odd. The person in question probably wouldn't although she didn't ride one herself. However this is by no means the first time I have attended such occasions by bike. I've yet to do a wedding but I usually have to take them memsahib to them and she doesn't do bikes.

    Next month I'm going to a meeting at the Scottish Qualifications Authority to do with converting exam papers for visually impaired pupils. They sent me a flier about how to get there with info on trains and car parking. I emailed them straight back to complain about the lack of information on bike racks in the area. As it happens I've already worked out where I'll leave a bike but I'm still going to bring it up with them. That was on Friday afternoon so I don't have a reply yet.

    I could get brownie points with the school management if I helped their bike activities but I don't for reasons that don't need exploring at this juncture.

    EDIT
    And my facebook picture is a 1960s Sturmey Archer advert.

    Posted 14 years ago #
  3. chdot
    Admin

    "Gembo doesn't think cyclists have any greater take on the world than anyone else (Martin does)."

    In that case there have been times when 'Martin' has been hiding behind Gembo...

    That leads to thoughts about multiple identities. On here no-one has more than one login name (apart from Anth/Anth at work and SRD/SRD on holiday which are clearly (fairly) transparent.

    On the ENews/Scotsman comments strands (which are NOT sweet and enlightened like here) I sometimes post as CyclingEdinburgh and very occasionally as other things. Other people clearly change their 'identities' after being banned for abusive posts.

    The initial reason for this subject being raised (and therefore this thread) was a small spat about the use of numbers between someone with an 'impersonal' login name and someone using their real name (and job position).

    On the Internet there has been a 'culture' of 'anonymity' for good (and occasionally bad) reasons. My 'real' identity is ch. These are the initials of my 'normal' name which is the shorted version of my birth name - this is easy to find by clicking on the many Flickr photos I post here.

    There are many places where ch. Is not allowed, hence chdot. That is my 'online identity' which can be Googled for and mostly returns stuff about me - I haven't done it for a while so that may no longer be true!

    SO some people on here will be using a name they are known by elsewhere, some use just their initials - as I sort of do.

    Other people are less transparent, for their own (good) reasons. In addition as many people are commuters there is clearly a feeling that people are not keen on revealing the organisation they work for and the precise location.

    (If you think someone on here works 'with' you, send them a PM. If they choose not to reply, assume it's not personal...)

    I think this is sensible and shows a wise scepticism towards attitudes (which sometimes emerge around Facebook- for instance) about there being 'no secrecy/privacy anymore'. Clearly this is not true and, for most people, not particularly desirable.

    I am not aware of people on here publishing 'secret'/non-public info. But there are people whose posts are informed by knowledge/experience. In theory this information/opinion would be enhanced by 'us' knowing the full identity of the poster. In practice some people would be less informative/not post at all.

    So feel free to post under your real name(s). If you are happier with a 'less transparent' name be assured there is no chance of a new rule insisting on 'real names'

    Registration on here requires no more than a genuine email address, so even I don't know who everyone is! So far the only 'abuse' has been commercial - mostly people punting USA cycle clothing web sites - strange.

    Posted 14 years ago #
  4. Min
    Member

    I left a forum years ago where people were giving ludicrous 
    amounts of information about themselves. It was incredibly 
    personal stuff and made me really uncomfortable. It included 
    a married couple who publicly split up on the forum after the
    guy started going out with the daughter of one of the other 
    women there. One of the worst was this woman who kept 
    publishing photographs of herself, gave away enough info for 
    anyone to find out where she lived,constantly complained 
    about how desperate she was for a man and finally started 
    going on about how her patio door was broken and didn't close 
    properly. I left after the admin went psycho when I complained about her
    giving out email addresses (including real names) to other 
    people on the forum. She threatened to find out where I 
    lived and publish my address. There are a lot of weird people 
    on the internet.

    Posted 14 years ago #
  5. Min
    Member

    Oh I have just remembered something else about that forum!
    It went through several permutations as factions developed and
    split from each other. In one permutation, some people joined 
    using a different name from the previous forum. Other people did
    not realise this and very much slagged these people off not 
    realising that they were there and reading every word!

    Posted 14 years ago #
  6. gembo
    Member

    Min - you should write that Forum up as a novel - there is a piece of journalism in yesterday's guardian about a documentary about made up people

    Posted 14 years ago #
  7. Min
    Member

    It was like watching some sort of perpetually unfolding car
    crash. It had a certain entertainment value but all just got 
    too depressing in the end.

    Posted 14 years ago #
  8. ruggtomcat
    Member

    wasnt ukhippy was it?

    Posted 14 years ago #
  9. chdot
    Admin

    "There are a lot of weird people on the internet."

    Careful...

    Posted 14 years ago #
  10. ruggtomcat
    Member

    I've been through several 'handles' over the years I Have been known as DamagedGoods, Dubbrother, [Nx?], PinkTracy and latterly RuggTomcat. Whats funny is how these names actually end up in your real life, I was known publicly as Nix for several years and Rugg Tomcat is in fact my Equity name and is a congruent real world identity.

    I've never seen its a 'hiding', just 'havin a cool name'. Who would choose to be called Dave when they could be InvsoMan! Oh, hold on....

    The point is its not about identity its about choice, how you choose to represent yourself in this (still) mainly text based environment.

    I Do find it interesting how we are getting more localised, forums are still brought together by common interest, ten years ago for me it was fire juggling at Home Of Poi which was a worldwide forum (and very active). Now I'm participating on a forum directly related to where I live, with members who may live close enough to annoy with the drum kit. This makes it kind of scary, but the added responsibility makes for a more productive and considered debate.

    I do think CCE is on the cagey end when it comes to its members desire for anonymity. And the closeness of the real world/internet barrier amplifies that.

    Posted 14 years ago #
  11. wee folding bike
    Member

    Someone I don't know worked out who I was a couple of years ago.

    I was out for a ruby with a chum and he asked if I was wee folding bike. A friend of his had asked him to check but I have never met the guy who put two and two together. This was back when the Herald allowed fairly unfettered comments on religion, politics and transport.

    Posted 14 years ago #
  12. gembo
    Member

    THere's only one wee folding bike
    one wee folding bike
    One wee folding bike In Airdrie
    wee folding bike in Airdre

    The tune to that is Quantaramera - well a weegee adaptation

    similar songs

    One Team In Ayrshire
    Theres's only one team in Ayrshire

    etc

    Posted 14 years ago #
  13. wee folding bike
    Member

    Actually there is almost only one person on a bike in Airdrie. It's next to Coatbridge remember.

    Posted 14 years ago #
  14. chdot
    Admin

    "It's next to Coatbridge remember."

    Does that have the monopoly on bicycle riders?

    Posted 14 years ago #
  15. Min
    Member

    ""There are a lot of weird people on the internet."

    Careful... "

    I reckon there is always at least one weirdo on each forum. On this one, I'm pretty sure it's me. :-P

    "wasnt ukhippy was it? "

    Is there such a forum? I doubt the place(s) of which I speak are unique in the behavious of its inhabitants!

    Posted 14 years ago #
  16. druidh
    Member

    The use of internet pseudonyms is all very well, but it can lead to confusion when real-life intervenes. On another cycling forum we meet up fairly frequently and there's always that odd moment when you're not sure what name to use.

    Of course, Facebook takes very much the opposite approach - it works best when real identities are use.

    Posted 14 years ago #
  17. chdot
    Admin

    "I'm pretty sure it's me."

    You're not alone then.

    On the other hand,with such extreme attention seeking behaviour...

    Oh

    Does that break 'the rule'

    ???

    I was on a board once where the bitterness matched that in real live - except that people could do it from the comfort of their own houses rather than go to public meetings!

    I gave up when someone started questioning my motives for something or other!

    I'm sure this forum will keep going as long as people find it useful.

    'We' seem to be an eclectic bunch of intelligent and sensible people (the two don't always go together) with an interest in various aspects of bicycles - with above average sense of humour.

    Posted 14 years ago #
  18. wee folding bike
    Member

    Ohhh no, quite the reverse. Coatbridge has a similarly low number of cyclists. It's not high in Glasgow either, sometimes I count the number I see on a trip into town. I don't get into double figures, don't know if I should count those on the pavement.

    I saw a P type Brompton with what looked like desert sand paint work outside the Citizens Theatre today. I was surprised and happy to see one of them in the west until he went through a red light. I should have known by looking at him.

    Posted 14 years ago #
  19. cb
    Member

    I was on Buachaille Etive Beag yesterday and identified someone from a hill walking forum (he posts lots of trip reports including lots of photos with him in them).
    We had a quick chat; he's a nice guy. I hope he didn't think I was some kind of wierdo internet stalker.

    Posted 14 years ago #
  20. chdot
    Admin

    "some kind of wierdo internet stalker"

    or hill stalker...

    Posted 14 years ago #
  21. steveo
    Member

    Isn't that what we have the spotted thread for, weirdo internet bike stalking....

    Posted 14 years ago #
  22. chdot
    Admin

    "
    Isn't that what we have the spotted thread for, weirdo internet bike stalking....
    "
    Seems so - and people complain that they haven't been spotted...

    Posted 14 years ago #
  23. spitfire
    Member

    and people complain that they haven't been spotted...
    you talkin' to me?
    I'd just like to know who to wave at in the mornings/afternoons so I don't look like an idiot waving to everyone (I spotted someone with one blue valve cap light on the goldenacre->roseburn path last week so that means there is more than me riding around like a police bike)
    I can't make it to PY in the mornings for an over expensive coffee (do they allow you to take a flask?) and look forward to when the Caley is descended upon by a bunch of hivis/lovis peeps
    I have used a number of handles on the web for the main reason that a friend once told me off for giving away too much on my [tomy] first ever website [TM] as he put it "Americans have knivesandgunsandbombsandsh**" he literally said it without the spaces. There have been Fobos, Fo, Snoogans and then finally spytfyre (spytfire,spitfyre,spitfire damn spam filter)
    Interestingly my flickr avatar is now an image of a rusty old bike part that has been wired into a fence as long as I have been alive...
    I think we should all wear badges at the Caley with our user ID on...

    Posted 14 years ago #
  24. recombodna
    Member

    You guy's are using fake names??...... Maybe I should do that too.

    Posted 14 years ago #
  25. Cyclingmollie
    Member

    My alias has outlived the bike it was named after. Poor Mollie (from the frame sticker: CroMoly) got dumped in the metal recycling at Seafield years ago. I used an alias because everyone else does and I didn't want to look like a clueless newbie (which of course I was).

    Posted 14 years ago #
  26. chdot
    Admin

    "I didn't want to look like a clueless newbie (which of course I was)."

    Don't suppose anyone noticed.

    In any case THIS forum encourages new people (to the forum and cycling) rather than look down on them - If that was what you were fearing.

    Posted 14 years ago #
  27. gembo
    Member

    I don't think this phenomenon is particularly new. 25 years ago I knew a guy Pud, well his name was gordon shaw but we called him Pud sometimes, if he made his face look like a pudding which he sometimes did. He had a Norton Dominator bike which was classy but alas prone to breaking down. Similarly, many people from that era think they were at school with a guy called Herman Moonbeam, well most of them realise the full name is not likely to be real but Herman was the guy on the Dawes cycling in from Ayr for a night out.

    Coatbridge has a number of key performance indicators where it tops various leagues (percentage Celtic supporters per head of population - 100%, percentage drinkers who rate Buckfast as their favourite tipple - 95% etc)

    Posted 14 years ago #
  28. kaputnik
    Moderator

    I don't overtly advertise my "real" name, but I don't really go out of my way to hide who I am. If anyone was REALLY bothered then a little bit of internets detective work and they could figure things out.

    The "kaputnik" thing is a corruption of "sputnik" - the latter of which I found was taken on various other forums or websites in the past so had to alter. Now I find that "kaputnik" is no longer unique either, so there's various "kaputniq" (e.g. flickr), "skaputnik", "kaputchicks" handles out there that I've lost track of. The "sputnik" thing came from my ebay account which came from my hotmail acounts which I can't now remember where it came from or why I chose it. I've also been, amongst other things, an "emoscopes" (a comment once made about my thick framed glasses) on Wikipedia mainly (now largely retired)

    Posted 14 years ago #
  29. druidh
    Member

    I was on Buachaille Etive Beag yesterday and identified someone from a hill walking forum (he posts lots of trip reports including lots of photos with him in them)[i]

    Lindsay?

    Posted 14 years ago #
  30. cb
    Member

    "Lindsay?"

    No, someone else. But I may have met Lindsay, or at least mumbled hello to him/her?

    Posted 14 years ago #

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