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Future of Sick Kids site
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Well that'll be the Gillespie's HS catchment oversubscribed in a few years' time...
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THE millionaire founder of the Capital’s Summerhall arts venue wants to buy the Sick Kids Hospital and turn it into a gallery of children’s art.
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Another student battery farm surely?
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https://marchmontsciennesdt.wordpress.com/
"A new community body, Marchmont & Sciennes Development Trust, is being formed to register community interest in the site of the Sick Kids Hospital. This will be through Community Right to Buy, part of the Land Reform Act (2003 and 2016). Local residents will be invited to sign a petition during February 2017 in order to gauge interest and support."
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Hope these two initiatives will work together, might have some chance.
Clearly Lothian Health will want/try to get most money, but presumably bids will to some extent depend on the prospects for planning permission.
Mixed use may have more chance than 'maximum dwelling units with extra new build'.
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Mr McDowell said: “This is a wonderful building and site which has been of great public service for the best part of a century and a half, saving so many children’s lives. It should be recycled somehow or other for public use again. I’m prepared to try and back that and have a go.
“You hear of so many public buildings being turned into flats and banks only lending for property. I’m trying to give a signal that there are more things we should be thinking about. We have to think about intellectual and cultural life and not just think the only business in town is property development.”
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This is a great idea. Enlightened patronage is possible after all... Summerhall shows that it could work.
The community buy-out is also a great idea. However presumably this would require public funding? That's the tricky part.
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I guess that it could be more of an arrangement where the community decide: We want this bit to be a health centre - go find people who want to build a health centre, or "this bit's going to be accessible housing, let's partner with an organisation that will do that" - so the money doesn't necessarily have to be a big lump but the community are deciding how the land will be used and ensuring that appropriate ethics are applied when the space is divvied up.
Maybe.
Or I might (likely) be completely wrong!Posted 7 years ago # -
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MOST of the cash from the sale of the Sick Kids Hospital looks set to go straight to the Scottish Government rather than cash-strapped NHS Lothian.
The hospital site in Sciennes Road – a prime location close to the Meadows – is expected to fetch up to £25 million.
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A COMMUNITY bid to take over the site of the soon-to-move Sick Kids Hospital has been delayed by red tape – and now there are fears it could be sold to developers instead.
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Ah, there we go - they should have been psychic. When I sell my house, I'll insist that the buyer goes through two separate purchasing transactions, with half being sold by me and half by my partner.
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Call me a cynic, but I expect that the sellers and the developers will quickly become fly to the various ways in which the Right to Community Buyout legislation can be circumvented in the letter but not the spirit of the law.
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kaputnik called it!
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The best method of ensuring that a process protects incumbent vested interests is to ensure that the process is almost impossible for an outsider/newcomer to engage with, or takes too long, or is full of unhighlighted pitfalls, etc.
Brown envelopes and foreign holidays all round, nothing to see here, move along.
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The following notes are from a SPOKES member who attended the recent (10th Jan 2018) consultation event organised by the developer. The developer's intention is to submit a planning application in March.
1. Student housing. Although this only occupies a relatively small proportion of the site - essentially replacing the more modern buildings on Sciennes Rd and Sylvan Place - the intention is house 400 students. The student housing will be 7 storeys high although we were told that this will not be much higher than than the tenements on the other side of Sylvan Place. There is no car parking for the student housing but 400 cycle parking spaces are to be provided on the ground floor in line with Council guidance. There are no details of how this parking will be designed.
2. Residential, private housing. This occupies most of the site and includes flats converted from the main hospital building and the houses at the rear along Rillbank and part of Millerfield Pl which are currently part of the hospital. Altogether there will 100 residential units with 88 car parking spaces - some in the front of the flats; the majority at the rear and some in an underground car park accessed from the rear of the main building. Cycle parking is to be provided on the basis of 1 space per flat.
3. Affordable housing - in the NW corner of the site along adjacent to the north end of Sylvan Pl - 31 units probably managed by a housing association with, at present, no proposed car or cycle parking.
4. A pedestrian route through the site from Sciennes Rd to Melville Ter including a side access from this route to the what is currently the hospital mortuary and which is apparently a listed building badly in need of renovation.
5. A commercial “unit" on the ground floor at the corner of Sylvan Pl and Sciennes Rd.
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Apparently, the locals are fuming about the plan for a 7-storey student block in the middle of buildings of 2 to 4 storeys...
And:
The A-listed mortuary chapel has some of Edinburgh's best murals, by Phoebe Traquair, 1895
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From: Marchmont & Sciennes Community Council
Subject: The Second Exhibition is now online!Last Wednesday, Downing Group presented their updated plans for the Sick Children's hospital site. These now include details on the sizes and form of the buildings they intend to build. If you didn't manage to make it, it's not too late as the plans are available here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cL5Hh620CNfxQnpDcOsLJLBslkXYRZqm/viewPlease ensure that the developers hear your point of view by completing the attached response form, and sending it to consultation@holderplanning.co.uk in the next week. All our responses will be summarised by Holder Planning, as part of the official planning process.
Representatives of our community will again meet with Downing Group later this month, and will ensure your opinions are properly considered. In preparation for this, we will produce a response from the Community Council as for the first exhibition, and welcome your input.
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Here are the plans and the feedback form.
I went to the meeting and was struck by how meeting with residents was an embarrassing formality the developers had to do before wringing their hands and running off into the sunset
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400 students to 260-300 odd permanent residents (assuming a mix of single people, couples, some families with kids?) is not a great ratio. (The ratio of affordable housing is also unexcellent in my eyes.)
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Exhibition boards (updated) from the 3rd exhibition
https://docs.google.com/uc?id=1eycwmKbciApfPq3SPNE3zGwsJaovSkoa
It looks like there will be no vehicle access into the site from Sciennes Road, so that makes it possible to close Sciennes Road to motor traffic between Sylvan Place and Livingstone Place (including outside Sciennes School).
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I've just received an email from parent reps at Sciennes. Does anyone know any background to this objection to closing the road?
"Apparently there has been a glitch in the plans to close the road in front of Sciennes when the Sick Kids moves . Someone from the council objected to the plan to have a car park under sick kids (accessed from the meadows side) and proposed car parking in front of Sick kids. Other parts of the Council are very supportive of the plan to close Sciennes Rd and enlarge the playground. ...
This decision can be overturned by gaining a load of signatures BY THE END of THIS WEEK (ie end of term) if not the chance to do so may be lost forever.
There will be parent council reps in the playground collecting signatures this week - please look out for them and sign if you are supportive.
Whilst it’s more effective to have written signatures if you can’t get to sign it in person you can do it electronically -
please email Fiona Denvir on fionadenvir65@yahoo.co.uk
And state your name, address, and that you allow your email signature to be used by Fiona for the petition. 16 year olds and older can sign."Posted 5 years ago # -
Wording of petition below. Please email PAGSK2017@gmail.com rather than Fiona as she's been inundated and struggling to keep up.
Please also help spread the word. End date is Friday 6th July.
Petition for the restriction of vehicular access to the Sick Children’s Hospital site
We the undersigned, seek to avoid the need for vehicular access to this site from Sciennes Road. We therefore request that the City of Edinburgh Council planners make this a condition for acceptance of the planning application by Downing Group and that they support the underground parking proposal that was presented to the community at the developer’s last public exhibition.Posted 5 years ago # -
Should the campaign not be against motorised vehicle access? Are they really opposed to cycling along that route, even when the school isn't open?
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