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Tram track issues - specific solutions

(165 posts)
  • Started 7 years ago by HankChief
  • Latest reply from acsimpson

  1. wingpig
    Member

    Lots of truncated responses in the responses document - I hope this is an artefact of the publishing process and that responses were captured in full.

    This was short enough to appear in full:

    "This is still dangerous garbage. You will get people killed with this design. Experienced cyclists won't use this layout.
    Inexperienced cyclists will not cycle in this area."

    Some respondents mistook the council's consultation hub for the Evening News' comment section.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  2. neddie
    Member

    ...we are currently aiming for construction of the proposals to commence in late 2018.

    Sounds good.

    Also looks like Grosvenor St will be made one-way, which is also good.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  3. I were right about that saddle
    Member

  4. Juanito
    Member

    I normally try to avoid the tram tracks, but with Leith street closed I've altered my route home a little to take a right from Princess Street up St. David Street (St. Andrew Sq.).

    It leaves something to be desired...

    The advisory paint there makes it really difficult to know where to put your bike. Left edge of the right hand lane and then swing further left before making the turn and hope your not taken out by the car from behind? Or just get off and use the pedestrian phase might be better...

    Posted 5 years ago #
  5. rbrtwtmn
    Member

    So do I detect that this is / these are the first cases claiming compensation, from the list of hundreds? Is this it eventually reaching court so very long after the event? Does anyone know more?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  6. jonty
    Member

    "A similar case is being brought by Ian Lowdean who was injured when he fell on Princes Street on 22 October, 2012.

    A further 39 claims against Edinburgh Trams by cyclists have been put on hold while these two lead cases proceed."

    Posted 5 years ago #
  7. rbrtwtmn
    Member

    These are indeed the long planned claims - as in this 2017 BBC article: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-41002038 - back then it did actually say "Following a brief hearing at the Court of Session in Edinburgh a judge set an eight-day hearing in May 2019 for the two cases" so here we are.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  8. CycleAlex
    Member

    Early release signals have appeared at most of the tram junctions in the city centre. Saw them in action at Haymarket, Palmerston Place and The Mound.

    The physical measures are still not on the ground however. A mere two and a half years late so far.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  9. chdot
    Admin

  10. Morningsider
    Member

    I have been through these a couple of times - drivers just set off when the green cycle lights illuminated.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  11. jonty
    Member

    I've still no idea why they don't implement these as angled low-level signals so they're more obviously targeted at bikes. They often don't put them on the 'repeater' signals, presumably as they'd just look like green lights at that distance, so you have to crane your neck up to look at them. The ones at Broughton Street are particularly bizarre, off the side of the main head like a filter arrow.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  12. Arellcat
    Moderator

    @Morningsider: I noticed this at the big junction at the bottom of Liberton Brae, when the cyclist greens were installed. Drivers now seem to have got the hang of it.

    @Jonty: Said Liberton lights are actually impossible to view if you're at the ASL because they haven't put any on the far side of the junction.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  13. jonty
    Member

    Yes it's those lights I'm thinking most of here. Clearly a total afterthought.

    I agree that drivers are generally pretty compliant, in my experience.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  14. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    The advance greens at the bottom of Kirk Brae are invisible from the ASZ unless you crick your neck.

    Like ASZs they're a motorist's fantasy of what a cyclist might want.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  15. acsimpson
    Member

    Have any been installed at Haymarket yet? I now actively avoid going west through Haymarket after a string of two or three attempts on my life by following drivers.

    Posted 3 years ago #

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