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If they were to ban cycling on the prom wouldn't this also stop kids being able to cycle there? Including older kids / near-teens? Can't say I want to see them punted up to the road, and it's a pretty wholesome place for them to hang out. Down with this sort of micromanagement!
(Presumed liability would help manage the speeding bikes I suspect...)
unhurt; These sorts of bans are for other people and not the kids of complainers.
I'm semi regularly down that way and outside of warm summer weekends I've never experienced an issue. Diverting away on these days would be no problem if a suitable parallel route was available to link Leith and Musselburgh.
Here's a plan then. On warm summer weekends, ban cars from Portobello High St :)
My plan is to get mentalled in the Dalriada and then cycle around the prom erratically, shouting at seagulls.
I think that's how a lot of the Conservative councillors spend their weekends
For the record I am not a Conservative councillor. It's one of the few good things going for me.
The first time I featured in todays rubbish’s cycling I was cycling on portabello prom it was 2 or 3 weeks after I got my first bike, before I registered if I recal, I was cycling on the part behind seafield pet rescue on the wrong side, at the time I did not know there was a wrong side
if only there was a third way ... oh hang on there is, so blinding obvious which is why I assume everyone has missed it.
The grim bit of road starts at the Cat&Dog home (where the nice cycle path stops and where ped/cycle conflict begins), coincidentally enough that's exactly where the single lane from the docks becomes two lanes heading towards Porty.
If could only there was a way to make a segregate cycle path all the way to the junction with Sir Harry L Way/Inchview Terrace/Porty High St by pinching back one of the two lanes.
Given its a short bit of double lane stuck on the end of a long section of single lane, it’s not going to make a whole lot of difference to the motorized traffic flow.
Granted, once you get to Porty High St you're still going to have the same issue. However I would guess it's those of us that use (used to use) the Prominade to transit, rather than pootle around on, that they want to get rid of. Porty High St is no worse than any other similar high st in Edinburgh to cycle along, so most transit-ers will be happy to use it instead of the Prominade.
Too obvious or just me ?
"Too obvious or just me ?"
"by pinching back one of the two lanes"
Well there's "obvious" and there's 'too scared to be seen be taking away roadspace'.
It would be interesting to attempt to find out how many 'problem cyclists' are just using the Prom as a through route, with speed being a transit 'requirement'.
It will also be interesting to get a report of the meeting to see how many people want NO cycling and how many want 'considerate cycling' - and whether people can agree anything other than 'no faster than walking pace'.
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instead of taking the trams to Newhaven and causing a bottleneck at Great Junction Street has no-one thought about taking the trams to Portobello?
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Gotta love the either/or. After all it's God-ordained that a British city should have just a single line of light rail. Like London or Manchester or Nottingham… oh wait.
Any update?
Monday 28 August.
So I am lucky enough to live on Porty prom. (For over 30 yrs). I cycle along most days, my kids learned to cycle on it, and most mornings I will sit at the window drinking my coffee and looking out at the view. The early part of the morning I see lots of commuting cyclists, doing 10 - 20mph. Between 8.30 and 9.00 there are dozens of kids happily cycling to Towerbank school at 4 to 8 mph. In all these years I have never witnessed a single collision!
I think part of the problem is perception. If you are strolling along at 2 or 3 mph and a cyclist passes you from behind at 6 to 8mph you might get the impression that they are going too fast, even although joggers are doing similar speeds.
I think I would have to be extremely fortunate, considering the countless hours spent on the prom, both on bike and on foot, never to have seen a collision if the situation is as bad as is being made out.
Honestly, I do not think there is a problem.
Would you consider joining/are you already on the Community Council? Accounts like that are very valuable and hard to disregard.
Unfortunately, Jonty, I have teaching commitments on Mondays, so not able to attend PCC. Happy to provide a statement with name and address if such things allowed.
Keep in mind the statutory role of a community council is to be a representative body, ascertaining the views of the community and making the local authorities aware of them. It cannot make a decision on cycling on the Prom. We (Portobello Community Council), have a track record over the last four, or so, years of using consultation to learn more about the community’s views and using that for representation, rather than treating the individual views of community councillors as some sort of proxy for the community at large.
The last time cycling was on the agenda I produced material in advance and we dedicated a meeting to a workshop on it; slides and minutes at http://www.portobellocc.org/pccpn/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Prom-Cycling-minutes-20160530.pdf
Argh, I missed the first sentence of the reply - sure, feel free to email in. The address is on the Portobello Community Council website.
Hi, Wangi, have emailed above post to PCC.
It is also sad to look at City of Edinburgh KSI statistics for children. Figures are frightening, but almost entirely due to motorised traffic.
http://www.travelindependent.org.uk/area_187.html
Received, thanks.
Did anyone attend the Porty CC meeting on Monday?
Any feedback?
I would also be interested in an update. As I said up thread, I have teaching commitments on Monday evenings so was unable to attend.
I see someone had made a video of cycling at porto.
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Better than the previous one by the same person. At least he changed that title but he still claims the pedestrian wanders around across the path without a care in the world.
To my mind, the pedestrian's actions were not difficult to anticipate as he moves to the right to go around the mother and two children walking the other way. I would have done exactly the same thing if I was the pedestrian, although I might have done a shoulder check out of habit!
In neither of those videos do the pedestrians do anything out of the ordinary or noteworthy. As you said, their moves were easy to anticipate. It's a slow moving section full of distractions and exactly what one should expect cycling along there. The videos feel nitpick-y to me. We share the prom which means all of us are mildly inconvenienced sometimes, it's how life works.
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However, a consultation by the council now mentions the possibility of selling Tumbles and having it replaced somewhere else on the site. The land next to the beach is much more valuable than the rest of the plot.
Geoff Lynn, of Portobello community council, said: “Suddenly Tumbles has come into the frame. You can imagine a lot of glass, seafront property would be quite attractive from a developer’s point of view. But I don’t think people have been aware that this is on the table.”
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https://www.facebook.com/events/1772983459387855/
"Your Prom Needs You!
Like the Friends of Figgate Park, the Friends of Porty Prom want to make a difference. We are a group of locals aiming to change our prom for the better. We need your thoughts and ideas on what the prom needs! Maybe more toilets or a climbing wall, outdoor showers or improved access for all? Come and let us know at our public meeting. This will be held on Saturday 10th March, 1-3pm, at St John's Church Hall on Brighton Place."
https://twitter.com/porty_prom
https://www.facebook.com/friendsofportyprom/
A person riding a bicycle on the prom appears to have broken a dog (Sat 25/07/2020) so be even more careful than usual if you're down that way on a bike.
"broken"?
Run into/partially over and caused to bleed. Damaged? The dog's person has since posted saying it's been to a vet and is still alive.
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