David Key (ward 9), has been chosen as Edinburgh's cycing champion.
I don't know if that is just rebranding for 'deputy travel convenor'?
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Edinburgh's Cycling Champion
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Posted 7 years ago #
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No. Cllr Karen Doran (Labour) is deputy convenor.
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Cllr Scott Arthur (@ProfScottThinks)
23/08/2017, 19:27
Quite excited about being Labour's nominee as the Edinburgh Cycle Champion. I'll never be a Champion Cyclist, but I could be Cycle Champion.http://pic.twitter.com/MebdN84z5O
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Oh well...
Allegedly -
https://twitter.com/profscottthinks/status/900642456403836928
Oh well...
Posted 7 years ago # -
There is also a "Canal Champion" who is Gavin Corbett
Posted 7 years ago # -
I invited David Key to the Canal Barge tomorrow but unfortunately he is working.
Seems approachable though. He was also one of only a few SNP Cllr who was vocal in his support of Option A for Roseburn.
Posted 7 years ago # -
Are we canal barging tomorrow?
Posted 7 years ago # -
We should be careful to not bog him down in small casework and nibbling around the edges.
A cycling champion - an effective one - needs to be getting hands on with the officers and subcontracted designers of every upcoming roads project and saying 'this is the standard of cycle facility that we the council are asking you to design and build'
This kind of fundamental culture change role can only be done from inside.
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"We should be careful to not bog him down in small casework and nibbling around the edges."
Yes.
He does need some awareness of 'the small stuff', but as a daily cyclist he already will have.
He ought to be willing to look at things like the St. James redevelopment.and 'temporary' problems that just keep being repeated but mainly 'vision', 'process' and the BIGGER PICTURE of getting CEC to be properly willing to reduce car use.
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Posted 7 years ago #
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@Klaxon
We should be careful to not bog him down in small casework and nibbling around the edges.
Why?
I'd suggest it's fair to assume that he's working on a tiny budget, that he'll encounter resistance whenever/if he tries somethig big, and that any "big" achievement will happen years down the road.
All these things will suck the wind out of his sails.
We've had lots of "big projects" that went nowhere. For example, the "10% of journeys by bike."
Let's see if this guy is serious enough to get these easy projets through - or whether he's just another polician who likes having meetings and giving quotes.
And, if he is serious, get behind him.
I think that's fair.
Posted 7 years ago # -
He's a nice enough guy but to be perfectly honest being a constituent of his I wouldn't put my hopes up too far. Far less visible/active than the other two councillors in the previous council session (not comparing now as the good people of Craiglockhart have elected a Tory councillor whose policy seems to be 'if you live east of the railway line you might as well not exist' so no idea about him), doesn't seem to be of a leader/activist type really. I hope I'm wrong.
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Posted 6 years ago #
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OMFG
councillor Gloyer, when was the last time an inconsiderate cyclist killed someone. Councillor Gloyer, how many people have ever been killed by cyclists? Councillor Gloyer, please answer the same questions but replace cyclist with driver. Councillor Gloyer, please hang your head in shame.
Posted 6 years ago # -
I'd forgotten we had one, but where was the Cycling Champion in the Picardy Place debate?
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“where was the Cycling Champion in the Picardy Place debate?”
Good question!
Posted 6 years ago # -
He did speak up at TEC about Leith Street cycleway ending at Calton Road. I bumped into him yesterday and he asked to be updated re the Leith Street closure. Spokes met with project team re Leith Street RSO/TRO but didn't closure not in their scope.
Not clear how they plan to overcome all the objections.Posted 6 years ago # -
“I bumped into him yesterday and he asked to be updated re the Leith Street closure.”
Sorry, but he has countless officers he should be getting updates from.
Or did you mean you asked him for updates?...
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He wanted to be kept updated on what progress we were making.
Posted 6 years ago # -
"Not clear how they plan to overcome all the objections."
File them away in a locked filing cabinet, in a basement, marked "Beware Of The Leopard"?
Posted 6 years ago # -
They can't do that with RSO objections. Need to be determined by Secretary of State:
"Scottish Minsters receive stopping up orders for confirmation. Local Authorities use these powers if there is a need to divert or stop up a road (but not a trunk road/special road), footpath or bridleway permanently to enable a development to be carried out in accordance with the granting of planning permission. The order should only be submitted to Scottish Ministers for action if there remain unresolved objections and only after the planning authority has made every effort to resolve these objections."
Full regs at https://drive.google.com/open?id=1f-ff12uLNjaA1HXXud42k6nJzwtTNDXR
Council don't seem to be following process as they are supposed to respond to objections and explain their case. I believe Forum members objected to the RSO - has anyone received a reply?
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I received polite confirmation messages acknowledging receipt of objections to the TRO and RSO, within a few hours of sending them. Nothing further so far.
Posted 6 years ago # -
Answer to Cllr Gloyer's question:
"Yes"
EDIT: There's "Additional information" on the next page. CCE is mentioned prominently: http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/download/meetings/id/56100/item_5_-_questions_and_answers (page 55).
Posted 6 years ago # -
Answers to Questions 8, 9, 10, 17, 24, 27, 33, 34, 35, 36 make for interesting reading. Particularly amused by the response to Cllr "Laird O' The Caravans" Douglas' question (9).
As for Question 31, that's a corker.
Posted 6 years ago # -
Whoop whoop. CCE hits the big time. :-)
I loved the 1st response better though.
Posted 6 years ago # -
How many grit bins were pushed over or set aflame on the NEPN between 8th September 2015 and 14th January 2018?
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Q8 *might* be innocent but slightly ominous for the parking of bikes against street furniture? Thinly disguised othering from Mowat, there? It doesn't have an engine so clearly is a throwback to a bygone age that we are best rid of, etc.
Q12 & Q32 re graffiti - 10 days for removal from council property apparently, but I wonder if communal bins count as council property because I've reported a quite a lot of graffiti, some offensive, on those which is still there months/years later.
Q14, ah, the old canard of 'they were offered an alternative', utterly disingenuous, recognisable to many clubs displaced from Meadowbank. Edinburgh Athletics Club now has most kids training in a small park off Ferry Road, on rubbish turf, dimly lit by a few lights powered by a portable generator. And that had to be self-organised, because CEC couldn't even offer a viable alternative to Meadowbank for EAC Juniors. Supporting kids sport in Edinburgh? Laughable.
Q30, another hollow laugh, emptying glass bins regularly unless told by the public that it's needing done. Festival, hello? Freshers week, hello? Hogmanay, hello? etc, etc. Bit like the apocryphal tale of Elisabeth the 1st saying she took a bath once a month whether needed or not.
Q31 - epic!
Sorry for ranting, feeling a bit grumpy this evening and I think it's due to not cycling today. Is that a thing?
Posted 6 years ago # -
Sorry, answer to Question 10 not so interesting. I meant 11.
Posted 6 years ago # -
The answer to Cll Gloyer's equally poor supplementary question is as good as the first one. See here at 2hr 24mins:
https://edinburgh.public-i.tv/core/portal/webcast_interactive/319902
Posted 6 years ago # -
@Snowy you should rant (on here) more often. Don't save it all for over experimental seasalt-flavoured beer.
I also worried that that Q about wheeled, motorless vehicles was about removing bikes locked to street furniture.
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