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Recently re-laid roads

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  1. gibbo
    Member

    Here in NW Edinburgh, there are a lot of roads that have been relaid recently.

    These road have signs about how there's no road markings.

    I rode along one of these today - Craigcrook Road - and the surface is very uneven. Lumps, bumps and troughs all the way.

    So my question is: is this how it's going to be? Or are these surfaces some sort of undercoat that will later be flattened and a smooth surface put on top?

    Posted 2 months ago #
  2. gembo
    Member

    @gibbo

    Think might be.

    Johnsburn Road in blerno had similar rubbish finish Same sort of stay cover as racy dykes. Covers all the motors parked up in dust.

    Lang Whang though between blerno and Carnwath has proper new Tarmac but also some yellow sprayed paint that lasts one winter.

    Not sure what the point of the spray on stuff is.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  3. weezee
    Member

    Blackford Ave has been like this for past 3+ weeks. There are loose chippings signs and no markings. The rough surface completely disguises underlying potholes and uneven surface. There's been no sign of any work being done.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  4. unhurt
    Member

    It's left to bed in while folk drive over it - they left Glenogle for a few weks, then came back and painted it.

    This is how they do the roads in Orkney every spring. (Everyone still drives at 60 despite the various 20mph / skid risk signs). Not sure the surface lasts well unless you re-do it fairly often - pretty sure the main road from Kirkwall to the aiport is done at least every second year.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  5. gibbo
    Member

    I've noticed some line painting here and there, which suggests the uneven surface is here to stay.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  6. dougal
    Member

    Is it one of those "cheap now, expensive in the long run" surfaces?

    Posted 2 months ago #
  7. nevelbell
    Member

    @gibbo - the road is a mess. I messaged Alex Cole-Hamilton and the council but my concerns have fallen on deaf ears.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  8. Morningsider
    Member

    This is known as "surface dressing", used to help extend the life of "tired" old roads. Details:

    http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/downloads/file/9668/surface_dressing_information_leaflet

    Posted 2 months ago #
  9. barnton-to-town
    Member

    From the above;
    Surface dressing information leaflet (PDF - 59.53 KB)

    Surface Dressing is a preventative treatment that provides added protection to the carriageway surface, sealing it from the ingress of water while also enhancing skid resistance.

    Kind of at odds with the "skid risk" warning signs all over the place on those dressed roads!!

    Posted 2 months ago #
  10. amir
    Member

    Surface dressing is a pain for cyclists. East Lothian and the Borders use it a lot on country roads. Once my back wheel ground to a halt on a freshly dressed lane - tar covered stones between the wheel and frame.

    It's pretty unacceptable to use it to cover roads in bad condition without repairing the potholes first - as they've done in Blackford Ave.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  11. gibbo
    Member

    @dougal

    Is it one of those "cheap now, expensive in the long run" surfaces?

    Funny, my previous post was going to have a sentence about "buy cheap, buy twice" but I left it out.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  12. gibbo
    Member

    The council pdf is laugh a minute.

    "Roads that are in relatively good condition will be treated with this preventative maintenance treatment"

    I think they mean,

    "Roads that are in relatively good condition, plus Craigcrook Road, will be treated with this preventative maintenance treatment"

    Posted 2 months ago #
  13. ejstubbs
    Member

    I thought that this stuff had effectively been made illegal. It's certainly been a fair while since I last saw it used. Probably coming back into use because it's cheap, not because it's effective. It's particularly useless when the existing road surface is breaking up rather than just being worn.

    (The "skid risk" is because the surface is loose until the stones bed in to the bitumen.)

    Posted 2 months ago #
  14. wishicouldgofaster
    Member

    Glenogle Road is beginning to fall apart already. There are a few small holes appearing which will soon become large ones.

    Total waste of money

    Posted 2 months ago #
  15. kaputnik
    Moderator

    You will find for 6 months to a year after the new top dressing has been applied that the first metre or so out from the gutter (or the parked car line) i.e. the bit that people think cyclist should be restricted to is now home to a coating of the loose gravel chips pinged out by passing vehicles.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  16. fiefster
    Member

    Braepark Road has had a surface dressing, a distinct improvement on the previous minefield

    Posted 2 months ago #
  17. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    "Braepark Road has had a surface dressing, a distinct improvement on the previous minefield"

    Did they do anything about the potholes first?

    Posted 2 months ago #
  18. fiefster
    Member

    Most potholes had been filled with tarmac turning them into molehills, bit like a negative of potholes

    Posted 2 months ago #
  19. gibbo
    Member

    These are really beginning to bug me. Was cycling north along the length of East Fettes Avenue and it was like being on a roller coaster.

    Posted 2 months ago #
  20. Colin
    Member

    I have written to eastenvironment and asked that the hazardous loose gravel is swept up at the edge of Holyrood Park Road. I've also highlighted the major trip hazard in Magdalene Glen as a result of the missing bricks on the cycle path by the unfenced play park.

    Let's hope both are rectified soon.

    Cheers
    Colin

    Posted 2 months ago #

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