Results of the latest consultation are out
https://westedinburghlink.info/consultation/
Regarding parking in Gogarloch
Residents parking seem the most liked
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WEATN - West Edinburgh Active Travel Network (WEL)
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Posted 4 years ago #
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I'm tempted to say that Edinburgh should just go for it. Motor city. Do your worst. No double yellows, nothing. Drive where you like, park where you like.
Posted 4 years ago # -
Yeah, I'd fully support a purge style day on minor driving rules. Give the EEN motons what they want. For a day. Then change it back.
Posted 4 years ago # -
non-residents opposition to parking restrictions is non significant in a chi squared test ...
in R:
chisq.test(rbind(c(9,9),c(4,14)))
X-squared = 1.9264, df = 1, p-value = 0.1652
Posted 4 years ago # -
I noticed a summary of the various TROs for the WEL has appeared here: https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/roads-pavements/view-comment-traffic-orders-new/3?documentId=12973&categoryId=20089
Presumably not long before they're formally advertised.
(Broken into different sections so the whole thing isn't delayed by one particular area getting objections?)
Posted 4 years ago # -
Plans for the Gyle to be redeveloped with a cinema have been rejected on transport grounds. The cycle route being cited.
Posted 4 years ago # -
Conservative Planning Spokesperson Jo Mowat...
...specifics of the development...
..."because we can't control what goes on in someone else's car park..."
"we have very little control because that’s private land"
<absolute facepalm>
What hope do we have of planning anything well with this kind of defeatism?
Might as well build at random like they do in a developing nation...
Posted 4 years ago # -
Wow - I can't believe a Councillor on the planning committee could display such ignorance of the planning system. The purpose of the planning system is enshrined in law as:
The purpose of planning is to manage the development and use of land in the long term public interest.
The Scottish planning system is "plan led" meaning that any development which accords with the policies set out in the development plan should be approved and any that don't should be rejected (simplified, but this is the principle that underpins the whole system). If a development plan requires the provision of cycle facilities or developers to undertake certain types of review before submitting an application and a proposal doesn't include these, then the application really should be refused permission.
Posted 4 years ago # -
https://westedinburghlink.info/consultation/
TRO/RSO have been published...
Posted 3 years ago # -
Do you like what is proposed?
Posted 3 years ago # -
I'm assuming the north section needs the East Craigs LTN to make the on road route attractive to anyone who isn't already cycling?
Posted 3 years ago # -
The north section is a mixture of good/great and pointless.
Good is a new bridge across the railway line. Great is changing the Glasgow Road crossing to be single stage and finally removing the Craigmount steps.
The pointless is of course the use of quiet routes. A modal filter on on North Gyle Road will certainly help but still leaves issues elsewhere (not least where the route goes through the middle of a carpark).
The shared use path past the primary school will need some careful management. Currently it is where children line up to go into school but hopefully that will not be required by next year.
There are some nice segregated sections at the top of Maybury Drive (and a zebra crossing) but with nothing to link to (yet) I fear the zebra crossing is the short term gain here.
I understand that they were unable to use the existing path network as it was too narrow but I do think they would be better waiting until there are funds to widen it as it is such a huge asset.
Posted 3 years ago # -
“I understand that they were unable to use the existing path network as it was too narrow”
I thought there was some question about the legality of cycling here, or am I thinking of somewhere else?
Posted 3 years ago # -
This would be the opportunity to change that!
Posted 3 years ago # -
If there’s money to make it wider?
In what sense is cycling ’not allowed’.
Posted 3 years ago # -
The paths are a grey area. The last official line from the council that I have seen is that they are roads adopted as footpaths and therefore no vehicles are allowed under the road traffic act. They are maintained by the council, however they have never appeared on any lists of adopted road produced by the council and as far as I am aware no evidence of such adoption has been seen.
To make mater greyer a shared use sign recently appeared at the north western exit onto Maybury Road. Presumably it was erected by the builders from the other side of the road but why would they have paid for it if the council didn't request it. Does that mean that cycling was never banned, has recently been allowed or something else?
Posted 3 years ago # -
Section from Gyle Park to East Craigs deferred till 2026 funding cycle.
This is basically the East Craigs LTN, yeah?
Hope the crossing of Glasgow Road is at least improved before then.
Posted 3 years ago # -
Mostly, some widened paths/junction improvements too but those had already been cut down a bit. Perhaps the extra time will allow some more proper segregation. 2026 funding cycle presumably also means it won't be built until 2027/2028.
Posted 3 years ago # -
Yeah, what's the rush? Not as if the Council have declared that there's a climate emergency or anything.
Posted 3 years ago # -
Apparently, the city has committed to "Prioritise investment in expanding Edinburgh’s walking and cycling routes to connect local services and amenities."
Prioritise, as in kick into the long grass? Nothing say prioritise like "deferred till 2026 funding cycle".
Posted 3 years ago # -
There are so many little things which have been postponed to be part of WEATN. The stairs behind Craigmount for instance.
With funding increasing is there hope this might be brought forwards again? Currently not looking good for any improvements before my primary age kids leave Craigmount. How many new roads will be conceived and built in that time? Quite damning really.
Posted 3 years ago # -
Hope the crossing of Glasgow Road is at least improved before then.
Alas it looks like everything north of South Gyle Crescent, including the bridge itself and crossing over the A8, is on hold until at best 2026.Posted 3 years ago # -
Some good news in next week's committee report - included in the proposed compulsory purchase orders is land at the A8 crossing. Hopefully we might still see the improved crossing despite the rest of the section being paused.
Posted 2 years ago # -
Cllr Whyte's motion on the WEL CPO talks about the delays in progress before immediately saying the CPOs (being done to prevent more delays) should be scrapped.
Checks out.
Posted 2 years ago # -
Some new activity
https://twitter.com/marcogbiagi/status/1531942606434967559
Detailed analysis of why the details need improving
https://twitter.com/david_mccraw/status/1532382905489666048
Some proposed consideration
https://twitter.com/cllrscottarthur/status/1532708322859798536
Posted 2 years ago # -
So, new designs are out
https://westedinburghlink.info/project-details/
Because if the significant redesign, the previous RSOs are void and they will have to go through them again...
Posted 2 years ago # -
Because if the significant redesign, the previous RSOs are void and they will have to go through them again...
Posted 2 years ago # -
At least Aecom will be happy. Is there any figures for what percentage of the active travel budget is paid to design consultants?
The new designs are quite the good news bad news setup. Two stage toucan crossings on Calder Road are a bit rubbish but also putting them on South Gyle Access is more than a bit.
At least the plans change the Dechmont Road crossing to single stage which I think is an improvement on the original designs (now closer to 10 than 5 years ago).
Posted 2 years ago # -
“Is there any figures for what percentage of the active travel budget is paid to design consultants?
100%?
Ok, it just seems like it…
More interestingly perhaps - as implied by all this - ‘how much is spent on RE-DOING stuff?’
Sideways question - ‘how much is paid via Sustrans?’ (“via” - as anyone who pays attention knows - it’s SG/TS money).
Subsidiary Q - how much longer will this money-go-round keep going??
Also is there ANY chance of ‘lessons being learned’ about the need for speed - especially the legal processes AND trying things with armadillos planters etc?
Does CEC ever use these?
https://www.marshalls.co.uk/commercial/product/interlocking-concrete-traffic-blocks
Posted 2 years ago #
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