Some partial support for active travel from the Old Town Gammon Association.
Buses out, lorries out, tourists out. Cars..emmm..as you were. And foreign buses can get right out.
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"Central Edinburgh Transformation" - Transport Comittee 5/10
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Posted 6 years ago #
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“According to Anna Herriman of the FNT transformation team, the permit parking isn't so much of a problem (as they see it) because they can convince residents to park "around the corner".“
Good luck with that.
Previously she was sure that there would be enough enforcement to deal with LW parking...
Posted 6 years ago # -
I do like the way the “Old Town Gammon Soc” article has been written - very witty & good dose of sarcasm
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Gammon soc wants to ban large vehicles and asserts Edinburgh is the only world heritage site allowing HGVs through it. Surely that is enough to get what they want. Sometimes best to focus on a single issue?
But
The gammon soc also have the wind in their sails band - tour buses on Victoria street, walking tours and shops putting racks of fake kilts on the pavement.
Posted 6 years ago # -
Johnston Terrace scene also unsustainable
Walking tours, tourist buses, taxis flouting speed limit
AND recycle tipper trucks routinely ignoring one-way
Only a matter of time before something happens here
Posted 6 years ago # -
Without question
The City is congested
but it is blind dogma
to continue to blame
‘the cars’
aloneLyrical gammon.
Posted 6 years ago # -
I am not sure your typical gammon will have a car? Parking in the nooks and crannies tricky for the old town gramps and grannies?
Posted 6 years ago # -
It would be fantastic if the Old Town Gammon Army had been mobilised to protect my right to drive my car through their World Heritage Site.
Posted 6 years ago # -
@gembo: gammonwagons are everywhere.
Posted 6 years ago # -
Making things up diminishes their case -
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To get up the 15% gradient on West Bow, as with most HGVs they need to take a run up of at least 35 mph.
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Link from above link.
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@stickman, are you saying these crafty gammoners park their vehicles on other people's turfs?
I am aware of the abbey hill displacement phenomenon. Other areas just outside a parking charging zone may also claim the name.
However In Gammon central there is high density gammon but low density parking for the gammon wagons
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Making things up here too I think:
>"Nearly all the damage to our roads and pavements is caused by vehicles that are too big and too
heavy for use in the Old Town. These vehicles also produce nearly all the pollution."The fact there's a photo of Victoria Street from the driver's seat of a car suggests there might be a reason for that opinion. It's not easy to produce a rough estimate given all the variables such as average vehicle age and engine type etc. http://www.fleetalliance.co.uk/diesel-cars-polluting-trucks-buses-says-new-report/
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I will, however, take issue with how the argument is framed.
You'd almost think that Herr Doktor Professor wasn't a member of the ruling group on the Transport and Environment Committee of City of Edinburgh Council. It is his actual job to frame the argument and suggest proposals.
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“You'd almost think that Herr Doktor Professor wasn't a member of the ruling group on the Transport and Environment Committee of City of Edinburgh Council.”
I think he deserves to have the phrase “semi-detached” resurrected to describe his political loyalties.
(Or maybe for other things.)
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His house?
Posted 6 years ago # -
So this is the official description of BALANCE(?)
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Though we ultimately hope to create a change in behaviour and a shift away from private cars, this is not a case of ‘driver vs pedestrian’ or ‘tourist vs resident’. We are absolutely committed to creating a safer and more enjoyable experience for everyone.
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Though we ultimately hope to create a change in behaviour and a shift away from private cars
The key word in this sentence is "ultimately."
Macinnes is telling you there'll be no meaningful change in the next few years. Just another example of a politician admitting there's a problem ... and kicking it far down the road...
And, while some European cities are pedestrianising streets, building segregated bike lanes, and experimenting with free public transport, Edinburgh will continue to be run by people who get their ideas from the 1970s.
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“The key word in this sentence is "ultimately."”
I thought the key word was “hope”.
Either way...
Posted 6 years ago # -
Meanwhile down the road...
"Since 1999, total traffic in the City of London has fallen by 40% and bicycles are now the dominant vehicle during the rush hour.
This is good news for air pollution in an area that breaches EU limit values for nitrogen dioxide, but an increase in active travel has many other benefits: less road traffic noise, fewer climate change emissions and people benefiting from more exercise.
A five-year study on 260,000 UK workers as part of UK Biobank showed that the 16,000 people who cycled as part of their commute had lower rates of heart disease and cancer and were living longer compared with those who largely sat in their cars or on public transport.
For the first time, the City of London data also included walking, which is often overlooked in transport planning. Walking was found to make up half of the people movements in the City, but pavements make up only 25% of street space. There was good news from the Biobank research, too; the 14,000 walkers in the study had lower heart disease than car commuters, reinforcing the benefits of active travel."
Posted 6 years ago # -
The next City Centre Neighbourhood Partnership meeting which will take place on Thursday 3rd May from 6pm in the Business Centre of the City Chambers. The meeting is open to all and everyone is welcome to attend. On the evening we will be providing an update on the Public Spaces Protocol, as well as asking for your input on the Dumbiedykes and City Centre Small Area Plans and the Central Edinburgh Transformation Project.
Agenda here: http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/meetings/meeting/4143/city_centre_neighbourhood_partnership
Please come along and take part in the conversation.
Kind regards,Andrew
Andrew Gallacher | Lifelong Learning Service Manager | South East Locality | City of Edinburgh Council | 249 High Street, Edinburgh, EH1 1YJ | T: 0131 529 5129 | andrew.gallacher@edinburgh.gov.uk | http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk
Posted 6 years ago # -
Parallel silo?
Posted 6 years ago # -
Presumably organised by the unelected (by ordinary people at least) "Roddy Smith, chief executive of Essential Edinburgh" and paid for by businesses?
One solitary (ex-SNP independent) Edinburgh Councillor on the board:
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The Board of Directors for Essential Edinburgh is Chaired by Denzil Skinner.
Derek Brownlee, Royal Bank of Scotland
Barry Blamire,The John Lewis Partnership
David Johnston, Montpeliers (Edinburgh) Ltd
Martin Clarke, The Edinburgh Woollen Mill
Craig Thomson, Boots Plc
Councillor Gavin Barrie, Convener Economy Committee, City of Edinburgh Council
Lin Cherrington, Creative Cookware
Josh Miller, Charlie Miller hairdressing
David Stewart, Standard Life Investments
Rochelle Burgess, Edinburgh St James & Multrees Walk
Jenny McPartlin, Marks and Spencers
John Donnelly, Marketing Edinburgh
Louise Masson, Harvey Nichols--
Posted 6 years ago # -
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WYG Environment Planning Transport Ltd were paid £110,740 for a George Street and New Town consultancy design works for the proposed city centre transformation programme, which could see key roads closed to traffic.
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Posted 6 years ago # -
Trams phase 1, pre-rescue plan, is a fantastic example of what happens when industry expert consultants and project managers are shunned in favour of political project management.
Posted 6 years ago # -
Even as far back as 1900, vehicles (albeit horse-drawn carriages) were allocated all of the road space, leaving pedestrians crammed on to narrow pavements:
new york carriages 1900 by Ed, on FlickrPosted 6 years ago # -
You wonder (well I wonder) how much the absence of local reporting allowed the Picardy Place horror to steam ahead under everyone's radar. It's a juicy story of bungling, interest conflicts, ignored policies and power plays but there was no fuss at all.
Now it looks like the Evening News and the Scotsman may collapse altogether.
In some ways CCE is citizen journalism, but it's no replacement for professional reporting. The BBC subsidises local papers through the Local Democracy Reporter scheme but that seems not to be enough and was always a very odd idea at heart.
Posted 6 years ago # -
I'd feel sorry for the paper boys/girls if the EEN went away but thats about it.
Posted 6 years ago # -
@steveo
Yes, they're utter bilge and have been for decades. Proper death spiral once you let the cranks off the letter page write the editorials.
Posted 6 years ago # -
The Spurtle is essentially the only citizen journalism in Edinburgh I think - but while it's great ultra ultra local can only be part of the picture. How can local democracy function without decent local journalism?
ETA wait maybe the Currie & Balerno News should get a mention before I get pulled up by Gembo?
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