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Today's satisfactory bicycle maintenance

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  • Started 6 years ago by Greenroofer
  • Latest reply from chdot

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  1. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Mechanical operations carried out with the aim of prolonging the utility of any object.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  2. gembo
    Member

    Maintenance, what is that?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  3. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Like when you idly scrape mud off a down-tube but taken to extremes.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  4. chdot
    Admin

    Maintenance

    the work needed to keep a road, building, machine, etc. in good condition:

    https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/maintenance

    Repair

    to put something that is damaged, broken, or not working correctly, back into good condition or make it work again:

    https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/repair

    Posted 3 years ago #
  5. acsimpson
    Member

    Oiling a chain is clearly maintenance. However is replacing a chain maintenance or repair?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  6. chdot
    Admin

    Now there’s a question.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  7. amir
    Member

    Could be maintenance of the drivetrain as a whole (if done in time). But can't be a repair only replacement.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  8. mcairney
    Member

    Depends how bad it is? If it's a preventative measure along the lines of "the chain stretch is outside normal parameters I'd better swap it out" I'd class that as maintenance.

    If problems with shifting have manifested themselves and replacing the chain remedies this then that's repair in my book :-)

    Posted 3 years ago #
  9. wingpig
    Member

    Is refilling printer ink in a printer repair or maintenance? Chains, brake pads, cassettes, chainrings, tyres, rims etc. are all effectively consumables. Seeing as frames, forks, handlebars, pedals etc. are not intentionally abraded during normal use their replacement would be a repair.

    Must remember to pop out and give my chain a protective coat of floppy wet-weather oil now that the slush is away, before the rust emerges from hibernation.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  10. chdot
    Admin

    “and replacing the chain remedies this then that's repair in my book“

    Yes and further repairs may be needed with a new chain...

    Some people always change chain and cassette at the same type.

    Others change chains half as often.

    A new chain often only jumps on one or two cogs - generally the most used ones.

    Obviously the new chain will wear. It may not be long before it stops jumping on all cogs.

    Whether this inconvenience is worth the money saved is personal choice.

    (It’s perfectly possible that a worn cassette will wear out a new chain faster than if both are replaced at the same time!)

    Posted 3 years ago #
  11. chdot
    Admin

    “floppy wet-weather oil“

    Which one do you favour?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  12. gembo
    Member

    Evans wet lube is fantastic. I do not like to say this but I say it.

    Five pounds on line but with a £4.99 delivery

    Mostly it has a very good nozzle. Then it is not too thick and not too thin Also it is a nice red colour

    Posted 3 years ago #
  13. nobrakes
    Member

    Managed to get my Marathon winter plus 20 inchers off without resorting to
    chainsaws or bleeding thumbs. Much easier than putting them on. Also managed to put the Big Apples back on the right way round thus rendering my trike aesthetically acceptable again.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  14. wingpig
    Member

    Meant to be GLOOPY. I think it's the green flavour Finish Line.

    If that's the snow gone then it's probably time to out the new brakes on the singlespeed so that I can put off removing the winter spikes from the geared bike for another few months...

    Posted 3 years ago #
  15. chdot
    Admin

    “I think it's the green flavour Finish Line”

    Ah yes, I’ve used that. Must get some more.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  16. steveo
    Member

    The muc off stuff smells great, haven't tasted it yet.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  17. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    I use semi-synthetic engine oil. It is pink and a lot less than £83 a litre.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  18. gembo
    Member

    What is the nozzle like?

    For me it is often about the applicator, see also my desire to borrow your smallest drill bit to drill into the top of my washing up liquid to significantlly reduce the size of droplet being emitted.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  19. chdot
    Admin

    “semi-synthetic engine oil“

    Name?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  20. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    I just top up a bike lube bottle with a nice noz from the 4l bottle of Castrol 10W40 semi-synthetic engine oil. It is about £5 a litre.

    £83 a litre is the same price as Laurent Perrier Cuvée Rosé, which is a very poor lubricant. For chains.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  21. chdot
    Admin

    “which is a very poor lubricant. For chains“

    Have you tested that hypothesis?

    Posted 3 years ago #
  22. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    I won a case of Laurent Perrier Cuvée Rosé from a FT quiz one time.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  23. bill
    Member

    @IWARTS thanks very much! I shall get myself a litre and refill my nearly empty Muc-off and Finish line bottles. Will report back on smell.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  24. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @chdot

    I never type anything into CCE without knowing it to be true. Or beautiful.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  25. gembo
    Member

    Water is only one per cent worse than lube as lube

    I wish this idea of topping up the Evans bottle with the good nozzle had come to me before I bought three more bottles from Evans, still with the bright red colour, that is Xmas sorted.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  26. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    This would be the cuvée of the bike lubricant world? A steal at £821 /litre

    https://absoluteblack.cc/graphenlube-worlds-best-chain-lubricant-coating/

    Posted 3 years ago #
  27. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @bill

    Try before you buy. I have like litres of the stuff.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  28. chdot
    Admin

    “I never type anything into CCE without knowing it to be true.“

    That may or may not be true, but it didn’t answer the question.

    Posted 3 years ago #
  29. gembo
    Member

    Arellcat can link to the research on water as lube at Heriot Watt

    Posted 3 years ago #
  30. chdot
    Admin

    “A steal at £821 /litre“

    BUT look what you are paying for -

    ADVANTAGES OF GRAPHENLUBE ® - CHAIN WAX LUBRICANT:

    *Able to hold sub 5 Watts of frictional loss over 900km on a Single application (in dry, low dust road conditions. After immersive lubing)

    *It gives you “free” power regardless the conditions- read more below.

    Posted 3 years ago #

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