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  1. unhurt
    Member

    Earlier in week: sore lower back from work related sitting. It got better. Saturday morning: humped bike with overnight kit, bottle of wine and several books in panniers up stairs at Waverley because the lift I needed seemed to be out and I was going to miss train to Carlisle (on way to cycle about with @sallyhinch woe). Got on train as excruciating pain developed. It'll stretch out, I thought. Erm. Not so much. Got off at Carlisle, lay down on platform, found I couldn't get up until two young transport polis levered me off floor. Back in spasm, could hardly walk, called home for aid. @sheeptoucher dispatched in car.

    Three hours flat on back on waiting room floor. One 20 minute trip 20 metres to the loo and back. Three calls to NHS direct finally resulting in a 21:30 out of hours appointment at the Western. Drugs and an anti inflammatory injection in the bum.

    Still can't sit, standing / walking possible but slow and very painful, transition between lying / sitting / standing excruciating. Very bored of bed already. Not convinced 500mg co-codamol is doing its job!

    Verdict is it's almost all muscle - lower back totally locked up in a spasm. Can't bend forward at all. Not going to lie, I'm catastrophising - worrying I won't be able to ride a bike for weeks or months. Reassurance, anyone?

    NB friends have offered help / drugs / groceries / physio contacts, so faith in humanity unusually high as a result. And a Virgin employee at Carlisle let me into the accessible toilet as I was trying to make my shaking, sweating, limping way to the ladies, held my bike while I used it, guided me to the waiting room while pushing my bike (I could barely move just myself) and then insisted on fetching me ibuprofen and a stick on heat pad from out of her own stuff in her locker. Which was all very kind!

    Later on was clinging to a wall in the car park while @sheeptoucher fetched the car, another lady approached me and asked if I was the one with the sore back. She'd been looking on twitter for Virgin Trains info for Carlisle, and read my tweet about helpful heatpad lady. She put two & two together and came over to say hello - and to offer me Tramadol because her daughter had recently had a hernia operation and her prescription was in the car. Yes I accepted her offer.

    Lesson of the day: "a stranger gave me strong drugs in a station car park" = a heartwarming story of human connection in the age of social media.

    Lesson of weekend: get to station earlier?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  2. gembo
    Member

    Maybe it is all a nightmare and you will waken up?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  3. mercury1and2
    Member

    Oh that sounds horrible- i only know that you you have to try to keep moving- unless a medical or physio person said not too. i can recommend Active Health- physio- as i use this practice based in polwarth gardens. i hope you get more movable soon- i have to do exercises every day and keeping active helps, take care and best wishes.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  4. dessert rat
    Member

    Previous offer still stands if needed.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  5. unhurt
    Member

    Thanks- Just trying some stopgap whinging therapy. And @mercury1and2 is right about moving, I just can't yet!

    Posted 5 years ago #
  6. unhurt
    Member

    Thanks- Just trying some stopgap whinging therapy. And @mercury1and2 is right about moving, I just can't yet!

    Posted 5 years ago #
  7. sallyhinch
    Member

    If memory serves, Steveo was in a similar position a few weeks ago and may be able to provide reassurance on the 'will I ever ride a bike again, doctor?' question.

    Sorry to have been the proximate cause of your woes. Therapeutic brownies going in the post tomorrow

    Posted 5 years ago #
  8. sallyhinch
    Member

    (I should add, for the removal of doubt) that their only active ingredient is chocolate ...

    Posted 5 years ago #
  9. chdot
    Admin

    “I should add, for the removal of doubt”

    That’s what they all say...

    Alternative active ingredients might be an option.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  10. wingpig
    Member

    If you're thinking a swim might help it, go in a swimming pool rather than the sea. It'll be warmer and far more comfortable if you lock up again.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  11. Stickman
    Member

    A couple of weeks ago I got a 4am phone call from my mum: my 84 year old dad was unable to move, in severe pain, grey and sweating. Feared the worst as he had a mini-stroke a few years ago. Drove through to the hospital in Glasgow and after a few hours we found out it was a back spasm/trapped nerve. He's now back to his active self, walking and swimming. Hope you make a similar recovery and get back on the bike/in the water soon.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  12. unhurt
    Member

    @stickman oh that must have been terrifying for everyone. Glad to hear he's back to normal! (I am now 100% aware of just how immobilising and sore back spasms are.)

    @wingpig I had not progressed as far as swimming thoughts but yes, I think heat is the way to go. Have a feeling Glenogle Baths have a sauna, if I can hobble that far.

    @sallyhinch a disappointing qualification!

    Posted 5 years ago #
  13. Stickman
    Member

    @unhurt: when I am benevolent dictator I will insist that everyone gets exercises/advice on how to take care of their back as soon as they start school. When I hurt my back the physio told me to look at toddlers to see perfect posture; she said starting school sets them up for a lifetime of back problems from sitting down on terrible chairs hunched over desks.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  14. gembo
    Member

    @stickman, that physio has perhaps downplayed the small and neat set up of the toddler compared to the elongated and vulnerable more spread out nature of the adult?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  15. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    @Stickman

    when I am benevolent dictator

    I am the Caledonian Dictator Benign thank you. I order both @unhurt's muscles to wise up toot sweet and and a general transmutation of brownies.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  16. Snowy
    Member

    @unhurt we will feed you beer tomorrow night. This may not be medically advised but there is strong empirical evidence you will be a lot happier for it.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  17. TwoWheels
    Member

    need a chiropractor.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  18. steveo
    Member

    I figuratively feel your pain. I took a couple days off the bike and then switched to the mtb with the suspension cranked up to take the pressure off my back. Returned to normal after a few more days.

    Though if I'm honest my back occasionally feels a bit tight...

    Posted 5 years ago #
  19. unhurt
    Member

    I'm not even almost bike possible atm - can only sort of walk, very slowly! Mtn bike would be best but I haven't had time to reconstruct since Newfoundland, and I am definitely not going to be capable of that sort of lifting and bending for a good few days I fear!

    I mean this could be the universe telling me to test ride a recumbent, right?

    Still waiting on @Iwrats' orders to bear fruit. Meanwhile my stretch goal is to make it as far as the pub tonight to allow @snowy to carry out medical studies into the muscle relaxant properties of beer. (I should probably not take the evening dose of extra strenght co-codamol first.)

    Posted 5 years ago #
  20. PS
    Member

    With the necessary caveat that it may have an entirely different cause to your current predicament, @unhurt, I've put my lower back into spasm twice in the past decade. Both seemed to be related to prolonged sitting at work, but the root cause was tight hamstrings and glutes.

    For the recovery nothing seemed to work so well as time. Massage and exercise (once possible) loosened things off and provide relief for a few hours, but then it came back.

    However, once I got better I've been successful (so far) in avoiding a recurrence by using one of those spikey massage/pilates balls to work out knots in the glutes and then doing a standing very slow stretch to touch my toes (starting with my hands something like 6 inches from my toes and then try and relax the muscles in my hips and lower back until my fingers touch the floor).

    Posted 5 years ago #
  21. unhurt
    Member

    @PS sitting exacerbating very tight muscles was definitely a big underlying cause - lots of travel sitting plus unaccustomed driving when I couldn't get up and stretch. I go to a yoga class about once a week as a rule, but holidays & work travel meant I haven't gone for six weeks which I'm sure didn't help! Usually I can get my hands flat on floor bending forward - yesterday I couldn't bend far enough to reach the plug for the kettle. Ow!

    (I do still think crashing on leaf mould on Friday jarred something important & I didn't realise...)

    Anyway I can now sit upright on a hard chair without wanting to cry, which is a big improvement on yesterday's horizontal-or-hobbling-only scenarios. I will not be neglecting stretches ever again because Rule 2 that was painful!

    Posted 5 years ago #
  22. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Only once have I had a back spasm, which was while running round the edge of Royal Aberdeen golf course in a howling, freezing gale.

    Had to extricate myself on all fours, very grateful for the nice turf I was. Didn't last by my word it was sore.

    Hope the beer helps and the transmuted brownies turn up.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  23. sallyhinch
    Member

    untransmuted (thus far) brownies have been posted.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  24. LaidBack
    Member

    @TwoWheels need a chiropractor. Second that

    Just catching up with your painful couple of days @unhurt
    Sounds like you are getting slightly better but worth considering professional help.

    A member of The Bicycle Works had a fall and ended up doing that - he was off bike for a while. Wasn't a believer in chiropractors but it seemed to work.
    His accident was very low speed thing and he's a young fit guy. Was shuffling about for a while. Could get info on pm if you need from him.

    Recliners - well I reckon a standard bike fit is worth doing to see if you can optimise your upright first. Re-formatted cycling does work of course but that also needs bike fitting. Seats like saddles have to work. Many seat types and pedal heights in the LB world.
    Some (eg @HartsCyclery) say that Dutch style Gazelle is optimal to take curve off your back and weight off shoulders and arms.

    Best wishes for a day on day improvement.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  25. unhurt
    Member

    I have faith in the physio - Balanced have previously sorted out the insides of my shoulder after a big crash!

    Have had fits for both main bikes already & hope they will still be ok once back is better. Just have to actually put the mountain bike back together some time later in the week. And uh, restrain my self from getting back out there too soon (this is partly what happened to the shoulder - I was in "this pain is cleansing!" mode...)

    Really just want an excuse to try recumbent, though I have nowhere to store such a creature at present! (And if I were to win a cycling lottery I think a fat bike might be very top of the "bikes I do not need but want" list)

    Posted 5 years ago #
  26. LaidBack
    Member

    @unhurt - always welcome to try. Sat is our open to all day and other days by appointment.

    We had a few people try two wheeled riding at NMS event on Sunday. Trikes are easier though - mesh seat suits more people too. We have one on rollers in shop.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  27. unhurt
    Member

    No cycling at all for at least a week lest I make things worse. In fact, not much of anything except avoidance of sitting for too long, weird pilates-derived mini-stretches & lots of walking without carrying heavy things.

    I'm bored already. Might have to revisit reading-while-walking, a skill perfected as a child too impatient to wait till she was home from the library to get stuck in.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  28. sallyhinch
    Member

    audio books / podcasts?

    Posted 5 years ago #
  29. paddyirish
    Member

    Feel your pain @unhurt- I slipped a disc a number of times since 18 which led to some pretty awful sciatica. I end up going to a chiropractor who repairs the damage and I end up settling into a routine of a monthly appointment which keeps me ticking over. Then I moved city and didn't keep it up.

    Almost always within a year, I have a major episode, the most spectacular episode was when camping out at Loch Pattack, managed to crawl out of tent at 2.30 and took 2.5hrs to get dressed. Then hobbled around to try to free myself up until Mrs paddy woke up - she took down the tent and carried a lot of my load as well as we eventually made it back to Dalwhinnie..

    In terms of tackling boredom...
    Planning your next big trip (or even the next little one... ) - how do you top Newfoundland?

    If it is somewhere where English isn't the native language - try starting to learn the basics of the language. Apps like Duolingo are great for that.

    Posted 5 years ago #
  30. unhurt
    Member

    @paddyirish Cripes! That sounds horrendous. Lucky you weren't up there on your own!

    @sallyhinch yes, I think so. I require recommendations!

    Posted 5 years ago #

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