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Not a meeting about walking, no a meeting about something else which you hold whilst walking.(specific subset when it might also be about walking, e.g.if the Ramblers Association
Held a meeting about rambling whilst they were out walking)
I am signed up for this course.
Much better than hot desking or fighting over the double booking of a room
Get out there with Iain Sinclair, Chris Petit, Patrick Keiller and the Fife Psychogeography Collective and start Stravaigin yer meetings
could catch on, gembo-san ..
charlie parker, leslie crowther
jean-paul sartre, jeffrey archer
billy corkhill, vince hilaire
desmond tutu, selma blair
hello, hello, hello, hello
@bax San
Albert Tatlock?
Murdo Eason Patrick Geddes
Iain Sinclair Chris Petit
Ena Sharples Kenny Dalglish
Albert Tatlock, Albert Tatlock
aye you're taking me back there
b-side of into the valley
Ahoy Bax San, you are right
La mer ee Doy?
That is what I think Jobbo says?
Anyway. The skids eventually hated TV Stars but I thought it quite life affirming
The Skids are back trying to earn a shekel
I am struggling to imagine what this course would involve, after they'd covered the basics of 'go for a walk while talking about whatever thing you've called your meeting about'. Will the course be held while walking somewhere? I'd be very disappointed if it wasn't (I was always the one suggesting we have the class outside at school)
@sallyhinch, yes I think you are right. Would want my money back if there was not a walk involved. But what if it rains? Will post detAils.
What topics might come up?
Avoiding blisters?
Disabilities?
Anoraks?
following the derive of guy debord, you'd want to navigate the old town of edinburgh solely using say, a map of tangier
challenging topics arising from efforts toward establishing the precise location of the medina / souk etc might develop from there
Someone I know says -
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I’ve had educational talk-and-Walk Sessions. Can be successful. People have actually studied how effective it is. Some people concentrate better when they are moving, others get distracted. Over all research says less effective than being still in a room. But I think can work well one to one or very small group. For learning that is. Not sure if research is generalisable to other types of meeting.
“
Favoured by Steve Jobs, Sigmund Freud and Aristotle according to the Guardian article I read. Bizarre. Though more sensibly works for brainstorming but not for converging on a consensus, making a decision etc
b-side of into the valley
Possibly another totemic CCE object, like P.V. Globb's The Bog People?
I have worked in an office where sitting meetings were considered too physically taxing and the walk between parking space and desk was a matter of burning concern.
@gembo, I've been doing this for years, but tends to be one-to-one or a small group.
If say I come across a colleague in a corridor, rather than stand there like lemons I'll often say "shall we walk and talk"? Helps if you're both going the same way of course. Also a handy way of having a post-sitting down meeting after/side meeting to discuss a few matters of unfinished business.
Problems can be: privacy/confidentiality; also lack of time before other person needs to go in a different direction. So can become a standing/hovering meeting in the final round.
Presumably back in the day one would have smoking meetings. Let us pack our pipes with fine shag and stroll in the atrium!
@crowriver - the confidentiality thing is interesting. I seem to recall that there's a special feature somewhere in the High Court (not sure if England or Scotland) that is basically a long corridor where solicitors brief barristers while walking up and down. They do this because, while it's possible to hear snatches of a conversation in this situation, it is impossible to hear the whole thing without obviously following someone. Walking and talking is the best way to have a confidential conversation in a public space.
I actually long to have a substantive meeting while circulating the national Portrait Gallery's ambulatory. That's what it was designed for after all. I regularly trick people into going there but they get suspicious after two circuits tops.
One of the two more senior people in my team smokes. He and the other more senior person fequently go for a walk and talk while the smoker has a smoke: to the extent that one can say
"Where's A?" (the non-smoker)
"He's in B's office" (i.e. A and B have gone for a walk and talk while B has his fag.)
@IWRATS, @fimm, maybe I have this habit of "walk and talk" due to being an ex-smoker. Hadn't really occurred to me, as I gave up many years ago. Now it makes sense: going for a smoke was often an excuse for a chat or indeed a meeting.
@Greenroofer, does depend what you're discussing at the moment when the third party overhears the conversation, but yes it would be fragmentary eavesdropping.
@Greenroofer. I seem to remember visiting such a place a school pupil. Could it be the faculty of advocates?
Of course it may be regular practice in more than one location.
@acsimpson - it could well be the Faculty of Advocates. I did have a feeling it was in Scotland...
As a young barman in the doublet bar of kelvinbridge I regaled the regular Topers at closing time with Please go up the frog and toad to your dog and bones and climb the wooden hill to Bedfordshire and whilst you are at it Do your talking whilst you're walking.
@greenroofer it's Parliament Hall (part of the Courts complex).
https://www.scotsmagazine.com/articles/z-secret-edinburgh-parliament-hall/
Advocates and Solicitors walk up and down (generally quite briskly) and avoid being eavesdropped. Used to meet my mum there while she was Practising.
"Parliament Hall (part of the Courts complex)"
I visited the place some twenty years ago. Very impressive ceiling.
For those who didn't know the history of Parliament Hall. It used to be council property until they gave it away because they forgot to check.
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/historic-landmark-lost-by-council-blunder-1-3691381
Hmmm, were costly roof repairs maybe not a risk factor? Causing amnesia and forgetful lack of checking ness?
@LivD - Thank you. As always, someone on CCE has the answer!
How would you take minutes on a walking meeting?
Shakily?
It's certainly a trickier process than for a normal meeting, but there are a number of potential solutions. I think the main point is to just take your time, not rush, and make sure you do things step-by-step.
@Frenchy - yes, you definitely need to pace yourself with these things.
When I was out at my ex-company HQ in San Francisco for a while a very famous, maybe infamous, CEO at the time would pace almost constantly around the main floor having walking meetings with senior execs. It was his exercise I believe. The floor had a specific walking track built in that covered about 1km I think.
He would pick up team leads as he went (we worked in a very horizontal structure so most issues had one specific lead you could grab to find out what was happening), pick their brains for a few laps and then drop them back off.
It was quite motivating to know the CEO could walk past your workspace at any time. Unfortunately at one point I was very jet lagged and fell asleep in the kitchen space next to the walking track and woke up as he circled past, so hopefully he thought I'd just been working REALLY hard.
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