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cycling into waverley

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  1. 531
    Member

    I feel a bit stupid but I cannot figure out how to access waverley by bicycle. As it is, when I occasionally go there, I usually arrive from the south coming down Cockburn st, I pass through the roundabout and then arrive at a ramp. I'm forced onto the fairly narrow footpath which I have to share with pedestrians, trying to avoid them getting caught up in my pedals. I have to walk all the way to the bottom and then push my bike past the ticket office to get to the bike racks. It does not make a lot of sense and I have seen old posts about a bike path going down the ramps. Am I being dense? Is there a way to arrive on your bike?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  2. Arellcat
    Moderator

    The cycle access is on the north ramp, not the south. :) There's a gate with a spring when you get to the concourse.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  3. neddie
    Member

    A complete fail on Waverley station’s part that it is not obvious how to enter the station by bike

    Posted 6 years ago #
  4. Frenchy
    Member

    Street View link

    Watch out for the police van inevitably parked in the cycle lane at the bottom.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  5. 531
    Member

    Ta - all - thanks very much. I sort of had a hunch I was being daft.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  6. chdot
    Admin

    “There's a gate with a spring”

    True, except that it’s an unnecessarily strong spring!

    Posted 6 years ago #
  7. dougal
    Member

    @Frenchy And next to the police van, the other four vans!

    Bigger

    Posted 6 years ago #
  8. the canuck
    Member

    Isn't there access from Calton Rd as well?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  9. chdot
    Admin

    Yes, up and down lifts too. (Access after steps, if coming from Leith St.)

    Bike wheeling trough on steps.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  10. dougal
    Member

    Well, there's bike access in the sense that you can carry your bike in via Calton Road. If the same criteria were used for car access we'd not hear the end of it.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  11. the canuck
    Member

    ok. i just remember seeing an opening into the station that way when i used that route last summer during the construction on Leith Street, it seemed to be on track level.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  12. chdot
    Admin

    “it seemed to be on track level.”

    That’s why there are lifts.

    Would be nice if there was direct access to P20!...

    Posted 6 years ago #
  13. the canuck
    Member

    i was trying to work out what dougal means--carry the bike in? i mean, if you're cycling to the train station, wouldn't it be better to arrive on the same level as the train you need to put the cycle on? and i wouldn't cycle inside the station, so i'm not understanding the carrying comment.

    Posted 6 years ago #
  14. LivM
    Member

    Cycled to Waverley yesterday with son in trailer. Four police vans parked in cycle lane. Plus an access crane thing parked up with bollards all around it.

    The gate at the bottom needed three of us to get the bike/trailer combo through (me pushing bike, my husband physically lifting the trailer around the turns and a fortuitously-arriving stranger who kept the gate open). Could they possibly have put it in an easier place?

    Posted 6 years ago #
  15. chdot
    Admin

  16. chdot
    Admin

  17. wingpig
    Member

    Need to get them to build in a wee nook somewhere on the cycle access ramp for the police van to park where it's out of the way. Hope they remember to keep a nice clear north-south path for people cutting through from the bus stops on Princes Street to the Fleshmarket Steps.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  18. LivM
    Member

    I'm planning to meet my aunt for coffee tomorrow at Waverley as she's got an hour to spend passing through. I'm planning to cycle but am I missing something about bike parking. One comes down the ramps and then do we have to push bikes to find bike racks? Is there a cycle route? I've only ever been to the station to get a train with a bike, never parked one there.

    Posted 4 years ago #
  19. Baldcyclist
    Member

    There's a map here, don't know how up to date it is:
    https://www.nationalrail.co.uk/stations-and-destinations/stations-made-easy/edinburgh-station-plan

    Posted 4 years ago #
  20. Murun Buchstansangur
    Member

    @Baldcyclist map looks accurate

    @LivM it's pushing from the turning circle onwards

    Posted 4 years ago #
  21. LivM
    Member

    Thanks both :)

    Posted 4 years ago #
  22. chdot
    Admin

    There was a Waverley Bridge thread somewhere, but I can’t find it.

    No idea what these are about, or if there is any notion it (legally) applies to bicycles.

    Posted 1 day ago #
  23. gembo
    Member

    They were part of the New Year festival doo-dah. Closer together, cant get through. But these ones anyone ped or cyclist can breeze through,

    Posted 1 day ago #
  24. neddie
    Member

    Do not crash into them, or you will be impaled and gored through the stomach!

    They seem bloody lethal to cyclists. We have to have these mediaeval devices because of cars and the potential for people to use cars as weapons of mass murder

    Can we just pedestrianise the whole of the New Town and the Old Town now, and be done with it?

    Posted 1 day ago #
  25. gembo
    Member

    In T***p’s America after ICE have murdered the woman in Minneapolis their defence is that the woman weaponised her car by getting into it. THe ICE officer then appears to step in front of the car and shoot her dead. Other interpretations are punted by Trump and supporters. Cars are weapons when Trump says they are weapons/

    Posted 17 hours ago #
  26. jdanielp
    Member

    T***p's an absolute weapon.

    Posted 16 hours ago #
  27. neddie
    Member

    the guillotine is too good for the orange [Rule 2].

    Posted 15 hours ago #
  28. Arellcat
    Moderator

    They seem bloody lethal to cyclists.

    CEC could install rising bollards if it wanted. There are plenty that will stop anything short of a tank at full pelt. The capital cost, plus the bureaucracy of undertaking such a project, is why we choose solutions that are effective and rapidly deployed while risk assessmenting away the factor of potential injury outside the target demographic.

    The risk assessment probably exists. At a guess it might state unlikely or very unlikely with significant to severe impact for personal injury, and unlikely or possible but severe impact for uncontrolled vehicle incursion. A risk impact matrix would score these as mostly medium and mostly medium-high respectively. CEC I'm sure is comfortable with the notion of a medium risk to people just going about their business and not looking where they're going.

    Posted 13 hours ago #
  29. neddie
    Member

    how is "pedo" rule 2?

    "paedophile" is not a swear word!

    Posted 13 hours ago #
  30. Arellcat
    Moderator

    The forum is not immune to legal challenges, neddie, however unlikely.

    Posted 13 hours ago #

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