Safeway would have been a constant too if they hadn't rebranded in the intervening years.
I'm not sure who owns it but don't think it can be M&S as they was complaining that Primark was being considered as a tenant.
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CCE going to the pub spring 2019 (Fri 10th!!!) Check YOUR Diary
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Used to be owned by M&S and Safeway but I remember them buying Safeway out before the morrison's purchase.
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Oh. Friday 10th May, you say?
I can come...Posted 5 years ago # -
So I did a little Research and it appears initially (using modern names) it was CEC/Morrisons/M&S with the stores being responsible for building their own shops and paying pepercorn rent. CEC was responsible for the rest including shared use of land. M&S then bought out the other parties before selling up a few years later to USS. USS then in turn sold to a company called Ellandi.
What I'm not clear on is whether M&S have managed to block the extension of the centre to include Primark. If so it appears to be on the grounds of loss of the shared amenity provided by the carpark rather than anything else. https://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/search-judgments/judgment
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Wait, the extension of the Gyle, the consultation on which I attended, is not happening?
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No I think that relates to an earlier attempt to extend the site.
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I have lost track of the latest update. However M&S were not happy with Primark being given a space in the centre. Scanning through it the judgement I linked to suggests that M&S may have a right to veto anything being built in the carpark. I expect they would/have use(d) that to stop Primark coming.
I should note that judgement is from 2016 so may not reflect the latest legal position. It is simply a hit I found while trying to ascertain ownership of the centre. I think the expansion was being discussed last year so presumably it is still going ahead with or without primark.
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Interesting to notice from the scotcourts link a few posts above that (according to OED) the spelling of "judgment" in legal contexts (and in earlier times) is in fact thusly, and not just an Americanism. It still looks "wrong" and "clipped" to me, however!
(Oh, and it would be nice to do some offline socialising, too, so please add me to the list of pub-goers...)
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a lot of 'americanisms' are actually older forms of british english. :p
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Yes! Apparently the phenomenon of older pronunciations & usages surviving in colonial locations also happens with other languages - was reading that Quebecois preserves stuff that French in France has lost. I assume this might be true for all sorts of transplanted languages?
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a lot of Scottish words e.g. Bairn are just old English words
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Tut, tut @gembotron. This is the 'man evolved from chimpanzees' fallacy.
Modern Scots and modern English share roots in other languages, some extinct some not. @piosad will be along shortly to execute both of us for gross over-simplification.
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"Chorey" comes from the French slang "chorer" (to steal).
As does "fash", "fâcher" (to get angry). Dinnae fash yersel.
"Steaming" comes from steam boats.
My 2 euro-cents (Scotland's currency to be)
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I saw a very good graphic of old English and Norse and old Welsh and the likes and the crossovers with the modern variants. Quite complicated.
Geordies use the word Bairn, in my defence, shake uses it too but thT is maybe in the Scottish play
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is this thread still about going to the pub ?
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Yes we are rehearsing some conversational gambits.
I am saying that words in common parlance in 17th century England are still used in Scotland today.
IWRATS is saying I am a chimpanzee
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cant we just talk about football like normal people in pubs ?
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cant we just talk about bikes like normal people in pubs ?
FTFY
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'Chimpanzee' comes from the French 'J'aime panser' or 'I like to apply dressings'. Word salad you see.
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Just rehearsing what we will talk about inbetween talking about bicycles.
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Also proving Hart's point that if the thread title hadn't been changed no one would be able to find out when it is.
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I would love to think (j'aime penser) that scrolling through the messages would allow a person to identify the time for this meeting but you may well be right that the title had to be changed?
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Beer is soon.
Hope to head round half sixish (many things to do in office).
Is this table booked under a real or assumed name?
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Table booking details:
http://citycyclingedinburgh.info/bbpress/topic.php?id=19567#post-305139
Will there be some sort of obvious way that we can identify the table (a small pile of Spokes leaflets in the middle might be appropriate)?
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- "a lot of Scottish words e.g. Bairn are just old English words"
Swedish/Danish/Norwegian word for child is Barn. These English influences get everywhere! :-) @gembo
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Oh.
Bother.
I had forgotten about this.
I was looking forward to a quiet evening in.
I will see how I feel.Posted 5 years ago # -
Should be there around nine doing a thing first.
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I'll be along just after 7. You'll be able to identify me as the lost looking guy wearing a black Pedal for Scotland t-shirt.
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I might try to make it along to this.
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to those asking about identification / how will I spot follow CCEers ??
i suspect we will stand out.
If not, just look for the table with a toddler running amok on/under/around/over/nearby. I am aiming to be there early for a quiet (as can be with a toddler) drink with Mrs McR.
Also, its fancy dress - don't forgot.
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