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TdeF for Scotland??

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  • Started 13 years ago by chdot
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  1. chdot
    Admin

    "
    SCOTLAND is about to mount an audacious bid to host a stage of the world-famous Tour de France cycle race for the first time.

    Either Glasgow or Edinburgh would be the home venue for the pre-race time trial and the start of the first phase of the Tour following three years of talks with organisers. The race route may link the two cities or head as far north as the Trossachs
    "

    http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/scotland/Scotland-to-bid-for-Tour.6684351.jp

    Posted 13 years ago #
  2. chdot
    Admin

    Just noticed -

    This is topic 2000!!

    Posted 13 years ago #
  3. recombodna
    Member

    This would be great.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  4. gembo
    Member

    In the year 2017 at the earliest but that would be a great thing to happen.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  5. PS
    Member

    That would be fantastic (as long as the Grand Depart is in Edinburgh rather than Glasgow ;) ).

    The thing that'll need to be overcome is how to get the TdF entourage back to France overnight. Long transfers aren't popular with the riders.

    If it's only a couple of stages in Scotland it will be a little too early in the race to have a rest day to allow the transfer to happen. The Giro d'Italia managed a start in the Low Countries last year by having, I think, the prologue and three stages there before a rest day transfer.

    Maybe they could have a couple of stages down through England as well, heading for a Chunnel transfer?

    Posted 13 years ago #
  6. gembo
    Member

    @PS - the article spoke of specially arranged trains to transfer the riders but your idea of a stage in England too - say around London would be good as they could do the Grand Depart here, then transfer by train possibly only 4 hours and then another stage towards Kent?

    you never know

    Posted 13 years ago #
  7. PS
    Member

    It'd take a lot of trains, plus there's a lot of paraphernalia to shift with the Tour (publicity caravan, media village for depart and arrive, etc). Still, I'm sure if they wanted to do it enough they could sort it out. The important question is whether the TdF really want to do it.

    Fingers crossed anyway...

    Posted 13 years ago #
  8. gembo
    Member

    According to article it would cost Scotland £5m. From memory of the article the next non-mainland France start is Corsica in 2014 - that will take some logistics.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  9. Cyclingmollie
    Member

    Would be surprising if they managed a direct rail transfer from Scotland to France as they've never managed to arrange that for the people of Scotland (little bit of politics) but this would be great and would be a big financial boost to the country.

    Posted 13 years ago #
  10. Dave
    Member

    They surely won't be able to do it out of Edinburgh. The state of the road network here could never handle it (imagine them all going down on Princes St when the tram line suddenly appears below the pace car and goes into one side of the peleton!)

    Posted 13 years ago #
  11. gembo
    Member

    Paris - Roubaix involves level crossings and cobbled streets but I am not sure about huge pothholes

    Posted 13 years ago #
  12. chdot
    Admin

    'Obviously' they'd shut the M8 for a day.

    There is a precedent…

    Posted 13 years ago #
  13. Prologue time trial around Arthur's Seat!

    Posted 13 years ago #
  14. Cyclingmollie
    Member

    chdot: There is a precedent…

    That would be 14 laps of the Plympton bypass near Portsmouth in stage 2 of the 1974 edition. Patrick Sercu won (it says here).

    Posted 13 years ago #
  15. Baldcyclist
    Member

    It appears Yorkshire has won the bid for the 2014 Tour.

    Still close enough though to go and watch. :)

    Posted 11 years ago #
  16. Boooo! But yeah, let's face it, I'll be going...

    Posted 11 years ago #
  17. PS
    Member

    Yarkshire, Yarkshire, Yarkshire.

    Will be interesting to see what the route is - a mix of steep hills* and dark satanic mills, I'd imagine.

    Yarkshire getting it will likely knock any Edinburgian chances back to 2018 at the earliest...

    *which means that there should be some great places to watch top cyclists crawling up 20% gradients. :D

    Posted 11 years ago #
  18. Cyclingmollie
    Member

    The prologue around Arthur's Seat would have been great but a stage in Scotland, I'm not so sure about. The Scottish Tour of Britain stages have looked rather grim on television (and as grim close-up tbh).

    Posted 11 years ago #
  19. steveo
    Member

    Arthurs Seat time trials would have made the strava segments even more unreachable!

    Posted 11 years ago #
  20. crowriver
    Member

    Oh well. Perhaps now CEC will buckle down to focus on the less glamorous task of providing some half decent infrastructure for ordinary cyclists?

    Posted 11 years ago #
  21. Roibeard
    Member

    I loved the Reporting Scotland piece last night - CEC pledging £1M (not on Leith Walk, but perhaps they knew it was never going to be spent!).

    Trailed and illustrated by shots of cyclists on the Esplanade. Then final segment of voice over actually acknowledged the irony that the rules would need to be changed as cycling is banned here...

    I sense the hand of a cycling subeditor/reporter!

    Robert

    Posted 11 years ago #
  22. SRD
    Moderator

    Shall we have a write in campaign for the £1m to be spent on LW?

    Posted 11 years ago #
  23. Cyclingmollie
    Member

    Roibeard: "as cycling is banned here..."

    Wasn't that ban removed recently?

    Posted 11 years ago #
  24. It was indeed. There have been new signs in place for a wee while now.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  25. PS
    Member

    I was thinking it was interesting that CEC only got round to pledging its support this week, when ASO's decision (we now know) had clearly already been made.

    Suggests the Scotland/UK bid was not as well plugged in to ASO as Yorkshire? Which may be because Yorkshire was originally planning for 2016 whilst Scotland was for 2017, so when the opportunity got bumped forward to 2014 Yorkshire's bid was more advanced.

    The £1m budget would be from the tourism pot, not the transport pot, so it won't be avilable for Leith Walk. They could perhaps divert it to the Festival of Cycling, which in turn, once well established might help with a future bid for the TdF. ;o)

    Posted 11 years ago #
  26. crowriver
    Member

    The £1m budget would be from the tourism pot, not the transport pot, so it won't be avilable for Leith Walk. They could perhaps divert it to the Festival of Cycling

    Yeah right.

    Methinks the 'street markets' of Rose Street will be rubbing hands thinking of what to do with the cash...

    Posted 11 years ago #
  27. Focus
    Member

    Very disappinted at the news, especially as UK Cycling had put its support behind the Scottish bid and that it would have encapsulated all 3 parts of Great Britain. Instead we are left with another entirely English sojourn for the TdF.

    I hope the Edinburgh bid will still be accepted for a future Grande Depart but worry that it would be put back too many years or even usurped by a Glasgow one, seeing as they'd then have time to put one together if they desired. I'm not being anti-Glasgow (I was born in the area) but I naturally want it on my local patch and, tram works aside, I believe the Edinburgh route would be more visually stunning.

    I'm sure Yorkshire will put on a good show, and congratulations to them, but I believe it's an opportunity missed.

    Posted 11 years ago #
  28. cc
    Member

    @Focus As far as French people are concerned this is all England anyway so the distinction would have been way over their heads. My brother in law has a large and detailed French atlas which confidently labels the entire island Angleterre...

    Posted 11 years ago #
  29. chdot
    Admin

    "Tour de France bid: City sets sights on 2017 after losing out to Yorkshire"

    http://www.scotsman.com/edinburgh-evening-news/latest-news/tour-de-france-bid-city-sets-sights-on-2017-after-losing-out-to-yorkshire-1-2693790

    Posted 11 years ago #
  30. crowriver
    Member

    To be fair, York can claim to be a cyclist's city. Along with Cambridge, it has one of the highest modal shares for cycling in the UK (and one of the highest in Europe). Something to do with being flat?

    Posted 11 years ago #

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