Entry to a 20mph zone in Edinburgh:
https://goo.gl/maps/HHxFBYhYwqYehQ679
Entry to a 20mph zone in Utrecht
(not brilliant in other ways,
but provides direct comparison):
https://goo.gl/maps/agot9KiwDqkyX3Ht7
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“Modern cars aren’t designed to go at 20mph” facts please
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Posted 4 years ago #
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Well if they're not, shouldn't they be, if those are the urban conditions they're going to find themselves in.
Cars are mostly used for shopping, commuting and the school run, not James Bonding through the Alps.
Posted 4 years ago # -
I mean if I moved to somewhere with only 4x4 access, I would buy a 4x4, not complain that my little low-slung runabout isn't suitable and demand the access be changed.
Posted 4 years ago # -
That Streetview of Utrecht is so much "Here's what you could have won". There's lots of capacity for cars, but the bikes and pedestrians are treated as (at least) equal. I had a bit of a virtual mooch around that junction: one one view there are two older women side by side, having stopped their bikes for a natter. In other there's a younger woman with a cargo/kids bike.
But, of course, This Is Edinburgh.
Posted 4 years ago # -
It's interesting as if that design was implemented in Edinburgh, I imagine quite a few people here would complain. The junction is done nicely but it quickly becomes advisory lanes on the outside of quite a bit of parking.
Of course I'm sure relatively low traffic and different driver behaviour makes it more than pleasant.
Posted 4 years ago # -
I'd still vote for that design in Edinburgh :-). The bike lane is hugely wide (same width as the vehicle lane). I don't know my Dutch traffic signs well enough to know if the on-road bike lane is the equivalent of a UK one (i.e. everyone drives in it and parks their car in it) or whether it's a mandatory one.
Posted 4 years ago # -
I'm pretty sure that in The Netherlands you can only park your car where markings tell you that you can, unlike here, where you can assume that you can park your car unless yellow lines tell you you cannot.
Posted 4 years ago #
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