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  1. chdot
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    I’m involved with a project to persuade the council to stop cutting various bits of grass - not difficult as they will do anything to save money.

    They have already decided to (mostly) stop using weedkiller.

    There are still residual concerns about people complaining about things looking “untidy”. I think ‘the public’ has mostly moved on (we’ll see).

    Not just about food - there’s the beginnings of a hedge using small beech trees that have been re-located from woodland where they’ll never get to grow to be like their parents.

    There are various public place where ‘edible gardens have been created. I get the impression that few people actually ’harvest’ anything - no doubt for practical and cultural reasons.

    The point is to involve people (including children) in the process, so looking for ideas for things that germinate and grow reasonably quickly and are seen (perhaps) as edible.

    I’m optimistic that tomatoes is an option - most people know they aren’t ready until they are red. (Several south sloping sites). Peas have been suggested. my personal experience is very mixed - may depend a lot on each year’s weather or perhaps variety best suited to soil/location.

    (I feel that) a lot of things that look like lettuce are mostly tasteless. ‘Salad leaves’ and rocket are much nicer to eat but can look like ‘weeds’.

    There will be raspberries and rhubarb.

    Suggestions?

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  2. minus six
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    i grow blue himalayan poppies. lots of them. even managed a purple hybrid the year prince died. meantime i can't quite bring myself to switch to a more productive garden output, but this thread might just spur me on

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  3. chdot
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    Thanks and hope so.

    Non-edible suggestions welcome.

    All from seed - cheaper and more ‘involvement’ than just buying bedding plants.

    Easy to grow, preferably self seeding (I know that can be a disadvantage) or perennial, pretty, spectacular, etc.

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  4. gembo
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    now not quite on n your brief but spuds are impossible not to grow. Take a while

    Actually I sort of flooded the bed yesterday with tomato feed so three of my seed tatties quite wet. Probably still fine

    Herbs grow like billy o - Mint for instance is unstoppable. Parsley not too bad

    Edible estates in Craigmillar doing lot of toms

    Spring onions?

    You already got rhubarb so that is good.

    Espaliered apple tree can be fecund

    Secret Garden of mushroom trust fame grow figs and artichokes, no idea if they taste good.

    Anything weedy that is non edible like ground elder (though that nice restaurant on royal mile Wedgewood tried to sell me some) wild garlic coming up now.

    Snowberry, Leandiai, eucalyptus will of course invade any space and you are stuck with

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  5. chdot
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    “Edible estates in Craigmillar doing lot of toms“

    Useful to know

    Any links or photos?

    Ah, Google -

    http://www.edibleestates.co.uk/neighbourhood/craigmillar

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  6. gembo
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    VERY chilled gardener too

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  7. Greenroofer
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    Strawberries? Not from seed, but easy to grow and obvious when they are ripe. Also very delicious and so different from shop ones.

    Jerusalem Artichokes? Impressive when in growth, but perhaps an acquired taste. Not from seed, but once you've got them there's no going back.

    Sunflowers. Edible, nature-friendly and entertaining.

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  8. gembo
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    Ooh I love a bit of Jerusalem artichoke in tattie soup adds a piquancy or again in mashed potato. Similar to celeriac which i also love and which is less windy?

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  9. sallyhinch
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    Our local 'incredible edible' group do a lot of gardening around Dumfries. The station garden has strawberries and blueberries and other fruits which I certainly eat while I'm waiting for my train (you're supposed to wash them first but I never have, maybe I will this year). They've also got globe artichoke and cardoons in other plots. A lot depends on the local volunteers.

    It won't happen this year, but for future reference, they often run a plant swap at around planting out time so people can bring in their surplus seedlings and/or pick up other people's if there are gaps in what they've sown. It's a good fundraiser for them, and also a source of plants if need be.

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  10. Rosie
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    I've found Jerusalem artichoke very easy to grow. I was digging over the veg patch today and found a few sprouting tubers so replanted. I've had good crops in the past. They are yummy roasted with garlic and rosemary.

    For easy to grow, broad beans, which are fail safe and you can start off in toilet roll tubes, of which we will no doubt have a surplus.

    Flowers - stocks - night scented and virginian - grow very easily from seed. Poppies as well, which come in all sorts of colours.

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  11. sallyhinch
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    There's also wild strawberries which spread very quickly - indeed they're a bit of a nuisance - but offer lovely miniature fruit which might appeal to kids.

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  12. wingpig
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    Rocket and chives are fairly tenacious in the face of competition from weeds.

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  13. the canuck
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    the pumpkin family? flowers are edible, and they sprout quickly.
    nasturnium ground well in terrible soil, and the leaves, petals, and seeds are edible (better when young).
    pansies-edible flowers.
    primula--edible flowers.

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  14. Colin
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    Perhaps get kids started off with cress then move on to carrots, onions and radishes? Tatties usually give good yields as do parsnips - tastiest after frosts. Use pots for sage, mint, oregano or they’ll take over. Many pears and citrus fruits will sprout their seeds easily as will pomegranates and avocados - might be while before they provide fruit though!

    In the autumn, kids may enjoy planting hyacinth bulbs and collecting acorns and cherry stones to grow.

    Cheers
    Colin

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  15. the canuck
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    i have sprouted cantaloupe from a fruit bought over the winter. I'll grow it inside, but no idea if it will actually fruit.

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  16. acsimpson
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    Purslane grows like a weed from seed and is edible.

    Alpine strawberries also grow from seed and spring up in unlikely locations.

    Any hints on getting sage to take over. My bush is woody and dying.

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  17. sallyhinch
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    @acsimpson - you might be able to take cuttings from the parent bush? Not sure if sage will grow back if cut back hard

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  18. I were right about that saddle
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    Our sage has survived two harsh prunings to date.

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  19. acsimpson
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    I might try both suggestions at once. Give it a harsh prune and then see if the cuttings will root.

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  20. gembo
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    @acsimpson - Very Sage

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  21. sallyhinch
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    I think it's lavender that doesn't like to be cut back to old wood, now I come to think of it.

    'cut it back hard and take cuttings just in case' is pretty much the standard answer to most Gardeners' Question Time questions (the other one is 'give it a good feed and mulch make sure it's well watered during the summer') so how can you fail ...

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  22. acsimpson
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    I suspect your last point is why it isn't thriving. It sits in a corner with walls to the north and west of it and over a foot of overhanging roof. It's about the only bit of the garden which hasn't been squelchy for the last 9 months.

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  23. gembo
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    @acsimpson, nothing drying out yet?

    Started lugging bigger logs from wasteland last night for more chopping, did something to my neck but fine after night’s sleep

    Garden centre out this way will deliver

    Need to crack on

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  24. Cyclingmollie
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    Courgettes are easy to grow. You can also harvest them small for pickling or leave them to become marrows. Potatoes take up a lot of space and can be disappointing. +1 for runner beans and rocket.

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  25. I were right about that saddle
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    If you sow rocket you will never be short of that plant ever again.

    Jerusalem artichokes also look after themselves and are tasty. And they are powerfully flatulogenic.

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  26. gembo
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    @IWRATS you are repeating yourself as it were (see upthread, well it isn’t you suggesting these plants but the repeating yourself joke does not work then)

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  27. acsimpson
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    Yes we have a rocket bush which is now more of a small tree. with a 2" trunk. It seeds more every year which we pull out as weeds.

    Purple sprouting broccoli is billed as being a one year plant. I moved a plant to a bare bed in the garden and it is now producing sprouts for the third consecutive year.

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  28. chdot
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    “If you sow rocket you will never be short of that plant ever again.“

    Yes!

    Had some in a salad tonight.

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  29. Colin
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    Yes, sorrel is very tasty and easily established too. Also, welsh onions, they need frequent thinning to keep in check but very versatile.

    Cheers
    Colin

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  30. gembo
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    Found three of last year’s potatoes when digging over the ground to put in my golden wonders.

    Maybe if it was the telly programme Survivors I would eat them? One has slight root but i think last year’s root

    Also for reasons of stupidity after I had dug in my well rotted manure to the lazy bed in the autumn I planted leeks and spring onions. I tried to keep the spring onions away from the manure as they dont like it. I would say not a success (not right time to plant) but the leeks survived. However despite being planted in rows they seem to coagulate. I have just split them and planted in rows again so might get some leeks come the autumn. YOu have to fold them over if they grow too help them grow the white flesh? THough I like the greens.

    Gardening the Gembo way, dont do it kids

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