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  1. minus six
    Member

    Forth Bridges Unit contract changes hands as of 16 Aug 2020, AMEY are relinquishing the contract to BEAR's South East Unit

    BEAR have the contract for the next eight years with a possible extension of a further four years thereafter

    Das ist alles

    Posted 1 year ago #
  2. Morningsider
    Member

    Babtie, Ennstone And Ringway - one of the better acronyms of our privatised trunk road maintenance system. In keeping with how that sector operates, none of the original companies now exist as an independent entity - all being subject to various buy-outs and mergers.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  3. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    I still get a laugh out of BAM Construction.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  4. chdot
    Admin

    AMEY are relinquishing the contract to BEAR's South East Unit

    Previously

    Amey has lost the contract to maintain motorways in south east Scotland to consortium BEAR Scotland. Amey had held the contract for the past five years but lost out in the latest tender.

    https://www.building.co.uk/news/amey-loses-81m-motorway-job/3076901.article

    November 2006

    Do they arrange to take it turns??

    Posted 1 year ago #
  5. minus six
    Member

    plenty time then, for cce to throw a shell company hat in the ring for the next round of tenders

    lets keep that BAM vibe alive

    i'm thinking BARE ARSE MAINTENANCE here

    Posted 1 year ago #
  6. Try Cycle
    Member

    or maybe Bridge Upgrade/Maintenace Ltd.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  7. HankChief
    Member

    Sounds like Alex wants to reopen the FRB for locals...

    https://twitter.com/markruskell/status/1313849826803621894?s=19

    Posted 1 year ago #
  8. Frenchy
    Member

    If I understand his reply to Mark Ruskell correctly, what he's arguing for is this road to be reopened, so that people can drive into South Queensferry without going along Bo'ness Road or Station Road, which both have primary schools on them.

    There are, of course, other measures which can reduce the number of vehicles being driven past primary schools.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  9. jonty
    Member

    I don't think that road was ever "open"? It was built specifically for bus access to the old bridge.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  10. HankChief
    Member

    That makes a bit more sense. Thanks for the clarity.

    What happens at the top of the bus slip Road?

    Is it signalised? Just thinking whether it would cope with lots more traffic.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  11. jonty
    Member

    It does appear to be signalised. I suppose the B800 once took all the motorway traffic to the bridge so you'd imagine it might have the capacity to take that traffic, and the bus priority seems quite good now.

    I think the biggest issue would be traffic backing up down the relatively short slip road and onto the motorway (and delaying buses!)

    Posted 1 year ago #
  12. acsimpson
    Member

    @jonty, It did once but even then the queues regularly went all the way back past Kirkliston.

    The slip road only connects to the A90 not the motorway so would be of limited use in reducing traffic on Builyeon and Bo'ness roads as presumably a lot of the Edinburgh traffic is already using the Barnbougle junction.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  13. jonty
    Member

    Mmm yes good point.

    I have finished thinking about it neurally and dispassionately and am now taking the grumpy view that drivers can't let stand the buses having one bit of road to themselves.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  14. chrisfl
    Member

    You can open one road, but have to close 2.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  15. chrisfl
    Member

    I don't think that road was ever "open"? It was built specifically for bus access to the old bridge.

    One of the nice things about OSM, is that you can access the history and co firm that it's only ever been for bus traffic.

    https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/186526410/history

    Posted 1 year ago #
  16. jonty
    Member

    Nifty!

    Posted 1 year ago #
  17. minus six
    Member

    BEAR sez: "It has always been our intention to use the Forth Road Bridge as an emergency diversion route"

    https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/local/fife/1793842/queensferry-crossing-and-forth-road-bridge-ro-close-on-saturday-to-test-emergency-procedures/

    Posted 1 year ago #
  18. Baldcyclist
    Member

    "emergency"

    More likely because ScotGov has made an rule 2 of it's vanity bridge which would never have to close that actually has to close as often as the old bridge.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  19. minus six
    Member

    and lo shall it come to pass, that one man's emergency be another man's predictable three mile tailback

    Posted 1 year ago #
  20. gembo
    Member

    @Bax San. indeed, why have one tailback when you can open the other bridge that was falling down because of the drivers to the drivers and have two tailbacks

    Posted 1 year ago #
  21. acsimpson
    Member

    So to stop MSP complaining that the bridge is shut for 4 or 5 hours they are going to close it for much longer on 2 separate occasions.

    They'll then know they can divert traffic in an hour, but conveniently forget that many will wait out the closure and create an instant tailback when the old one opens. That's ignoring the fact that the new one apparently now transports over 20% more than the old one could even with optimised approaches.

    This isn't going to end well.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  22. minus six
    Member

    indeed @ac.. it will not end well..

    the sun is coming.. to drown this world in astral fire

    Posted 1 year ago #
  23. crowriver
    Member

    @bax, presumably an asteroid will hit us before then, wiping out most lifeforms, and the lowliest creatures only will survive to evolve into something else...

    Posted 1 year ago #
  24. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    Dartfordisation is coming. Second Forth crossing northwards, third Forth crossing southbound.

    And the Alex Cole-Hamilton relief tunnel. Tunnels, sorry.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  25. I were right about that saddle
    Member

  26. gembo
    Member

    Why have one bridge congested with traffic when you can have two.

    Also was it just a lie the older bridge was falling down?

    Just a minor detail, that is fixed now and the other bridge only cost billions.

    Every bridge needs another bridge for company

    Posted 1 year ago #
  27. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    What is the oldest bridge in Scotland still in use? No Googling now kidz!

    Posted 1 year ago #
  28. acsimpson
    Member

    the Forth Bridge may reopen as an emergency diversion to allow drivers to still be able to cross over the water in the event of a closure.

    The Forth Bridge has always been an option for drivers to use when weather has closed the other bridges. They just have to leave their cars behind.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  29. I were right about that saddle
    Member

    +1 would recommend.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  30. acsimpson
    Member

    @IWRATS, Locally Cramond Brig is the oldest which comes to mind. Without googling I guess the Cammo Grotto Bridge is not as old. I'm sure you'll fascinate us with tales of bridges far older.

    Posted 1 year ago #

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